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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 24 Dec 96 Volume 14 : Issue 295
Today's Topics:
[!] Merry Christmass
? Converting HyperCard
[Q] is it possible to extract each item of the digest
[Q] Problem Printing Page 2+ of Laser Address Labels in Word 5.1a
Info-Mac Digest V14 #294
Is there a Southampton (UK) User Group?
Memory gone after using Netscape!
Multimedia submissions
Netscape 2.01 doesn't run on Mac IIcx
OS Strategy at Apple? (oxymoron?)
port juggler help
Q: Word 6.0.1 does not print page numbers, shows {PAGE}, why?
RGB to NTSC converter WANTED
Your recent rantings on Info-Mac....
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 96 20:17:24 PST
From: The Moderators
Subject: [!] Merry Christmass
>From all of at info-mac!
BTW, there are a bunch of uploads waiting to drop by, but we are so full on
disk space that we have no room for them! We will have to purge again.
Cheers,
Gordon (info-mac moderator)
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:11:01 -1000
From: Jerry Levinson
Subject: ? Converting HyperCard
What are my options for converting HyperCard stacks to run on Windoze? I
know I can use SuperCard, are there any other options?
Thanks,
Jerry
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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 20:19:10 -0800
From: Matt Neuburg
Subject: [Q] is it possible to extract each item of the digest
On Sun, 22 Dec 1996 16:50:13 -0300, Francisco Hirsch
said:
>Is there a program that can extract each item of Info-Mac Digest and put it
>in FileMaker database?
>The idea is to build an software database that could be searched offline.
You could do this with any good scriptable word processor and AppleScript,
but note that EasyView is a pretty good place to read and (slowly) search
IM already. I also have written a HyperCard stack which breaks IM digests
into individual messages and threads them so you can read them like a sort
of off-line newsreader; I'd be glad to send this to you (or anyone who
wants it), it wouldn't be hard to attach search capability to it (insofar
as HyperCard is good at that sort of thing). m.
matt neuburg, phd = [email protected]
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Date: 24 Dec 1996 19:41:17 +0000
From: Mephistophilis
Subject: [Q] Problem Printing Page 2+ of Laser Address Labels in Word 5.1a
I have been trying to print addresses on Avery
L7159 laser labels using the Print Merge facility
of MSWord 5.1a. The first page of labels prints
properly. On the second - and subsequent - pages,
however, the print starts ca. 7 mm. lower than in
the first page and this is enough to push the end
of some of the longer addresses down on to the
next label. The effect is not cumulative - i.e.
all pages after p. 1 are displaced by the same
amount w.r.t page 1. When I merge the address
data to a document and inspect it on-screen the
print is placed properly on all pages. Running my
machine (Power Mac 8200/120, S7.5.5) with S7.5.5
exts. and cps only loaded does not have any
effect. I would be very grateful if anyone could
suggest a cause and - hopefully - a cure for this
annoying problem.
TIA -
Fergus Lalor
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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 96 22:44:01 -0400
From: Lee Larson
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #294
>I have just inherited a PowerCD without the power
>supply. Can anyone tell me the rating (Volts/amps)
>and polarity of the input (positive or negative
>center pin) so that I can use a generic adaptor?
10 volts, 1.0 amps, positive center pin.
Lee Larson http://www.louisville.edu/~lmlars01/ (502)852-6826
Mathematics Department, University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292 USA
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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 19:09:14 +0100
From: [email protected] (ab)
Subject: Is there a Southampton (UK) User Group?
Does anyone know of the existence of a Southampton (UK) Mac User Group?
There used to be one but the person named in Macformat has moved and has
not left a forwarding address.
If not Southampton, where is the nearest group?
Many thanks for your help.
Drew Provan
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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 12:31:37 +0000
From: Keijiro Ikebe
Subject: Memory gone after using Netscape!
Before I launch Netscape 2.0, I typically have 18MB of available RAM.
But when I quit, I only have about 9MB left. Where did the other 9MB
go? It's worse when I use Netscape 3.0. When I quit, I only have about
5MB of RAM left! I have 24MB of RAM and am using System 7.5.5.
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:04:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Phil Shapiro
Subject: Multimedia submissions
Hi there -
I'm curious to know if the Info-Mac hard drive expansion plans have been
completed. I've been having fun creating some new freeware multimedia
stacks (about three of them, a megabyte in size each), but I wouldn't want
to burden the archives with submissions if the expansion process is still
underway.
Thanks for any further info you can provide.
- Phil
Phil Shapiro, Washington DC Regional Coordinator
Community Technology Centers' Network
5201 Chevy Chase Pkwy., NW, Washington DC, 20015-1747.
http://www.his.com/~pshapiro/ (personal)
http://members.aol.com/calicodc/ (local work)
http://www.ctcnet.org/ (national work)
[Well, further than you would think. Liam had been doing the work originally,
but he has taken a temporary leave of absence in order to get a job! So, now
I'm doing it. We just got the disks partitioned properly and we have mirrored
a few subdirectories. I have now converted the abstract generator and the
all-files.txt scripts over. Several more are left. This was as of two
days ago. Even though I'm not in the software bussiness, I'm smart
enough not to promise a completion date! I'll keep you posted.
Merry Christmass from all of us at info-mac -Gordon]
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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 20:07:25 +0100 (GMT+0100)
From: Laurent Daloze
Subject: Netscape 2.01 doesn't run on Mac IIcx
Hi folks!
A friend just bought an Internet connection, but he can only run Netscape
1.12 because the 2.01 version doesn't work at all -- he gets a finder
error when he tries to launch the program, I forgot the error type
though, but it was an error because some hardware/software was not present.
He uses a Macintosh IIcx 68030, 16MHz 8/120, with System 7.5.3 French &
FreePPP 2.5 French.
Thanks in advance,
-- Laurent Daloze ("Trent")
Mail To: [email protected]
[email protected]
My web page is "under construction"...
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 11:17:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sterling Augustine
Subject: OS Strategy at Apple? (oxymoron?)
Allan Hunter writes:
>>>>
[excellent summary of Apple's OS "strategy" snipped]
...I still want the "look and feel" of the Mac system. I don't
know about the rest of y'all but if Apple foists upon me something that works
and thinks and looks and feels and behaves in new and totally different ways
and calls it "Mac", I will not regard it as Mac and I'll be uninclined to be
loyal to it as such.
>>>>>
Rule number one to keep in mind: An operating system is _not_ a
user-interface.
The two are really unrelated in any programmatic sense. That's why, for
example, an X-terminal can run on top of the UNIX kernal just as well as the
UNIX shell can. An operating system controls how software interacts with
hardware, while a UI controls how the user interacts with the software. That's
why your system folder contains two programs, one named "System"--which handles
the hardware-software interaction, and the other named "Finder" that handles
user-interaction.
A UI runs on top of an OS, and the OS in many ways makes possible what the UI
can do (mostly in terms of the power and features the UI has access to), but
there is no reason at all that the look and feel of the Mac would have to
change when NeXT's OS is running underneath the Finder and toolbox. Extensions
could still run (although they probably would need to be re-written); the
system folder, aliases, QuickTime and most the stuff that makes a Mac a Mac are
easily implementable under various operating systems.
Now, granted that the MacToolbox is currently built into the Mac operating
system, there is no reason why it has to be this way. So before we get all up
in arms about the wonderful Mac UI being replaced by NeXT's, let's figure out
what changes are really going to happen. Apple knows it doesn't need a UI
replacement. It needs help under the hood--which is what it bought: under the
hood technology.
Just like the real benefits of Windows 95 (yes they exist) weren't in the UI,
but hidden deep in the OS, the benefits of the pre-emptive multitasking,
protected memory OS and decent file-system that Apple just bought won't be seen
by joe-user, except in the form of fewer crashes, a quicker machine, and fewer
trips to Norton Utilities. The higher-performance operating system will make
more things possible--like the famous full-window dragging everyone seems gaga
about, but it won't _necessarily_ change _anything_ about user-interaction.
The Mac platform's problems are really two-fold: first, the OS is sorely out-of
date, it lacks memory protection, symmetric multi-processing, and has awful
memory management, among other problems. Clearly, Apple's goal in buying NeXT
is to solve this problem. Second, the toolbox is a hodge-podge of outdated and
state-of-the-art functions, some reentrant, and others not. Buying NeXT may go
a long way to solving this problem, but most changes will happen at the
developer's level, not at the user's level.
Just like Aaron can change the way windows and such look without changing a
fundamental thing about the Operating System, so also is it possible to change
the underlying OS without changing the look and feel of applications on top of
it. Today, it is completely possible to write a Finder-replacement that makes
your mac look and act very-much like a NeXT machine, at least from a user's
perspective, but that wouldn't address the fundamental problems with the
underlying architecture.
Note that Apple _could_ change it's UI, I'm just saying that there is no reason
that it _has_ to. And to my knowledge, they haven't made any announcements
either way. So let's just step back and see what happens before we worry about
disks not ejecting themselves (which _does_ happen under the NeXT UI if the
hardware is available), sticky-drop down menus, selectable boot-times and all
the other things that probably won't change.
Just my two cents.
Sterling
[email protected]
[I must say, my heart sunk when I first read about the NeXT purchase. Then
my thoughts ran along the lines of Sterling, here. Then I read some more PR
and saw mention of how easy it is to program in one-step. This said to me that
we would soon be using the NeXT UI. And, then I can't really figure out how
I feel about Jobs. Finally, I realized that I know nothing. It all comes
down to how Apple does it, and that we will at least start to understand
on Jan 7. When Apple's CEO makes his speech. In the meantime, I found
a URL with a intro to the NeXT UI... this guy is biased, but at least it
gives us a hint).
http://www3.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/index.html
Merry Christmass! -Gordon]
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Date: 24 Dec 1996 20:01:01 GMT
From: [email protected] (Leslie Burkholder)
Subject: port juggler help
Has anyone gotten a port juggler to work successfully with a powerbook
5xx? Is there some trick I'm missing? I certainly don't seem to be able
to get it to print by following the installation instructions.
My setup (in case this helps) is
powerbook 540
internal gv fax/modem
portable stylewriter printer
labelwriter
Thanks
Leslie Burkholder
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:52:52 -0500
From: [email protected] (Gaby Levinson)
Subject: Q: Word 6.0.1 does not print page numbers, shows {PAGE}, why?
My Mac Word 6.0.1 behaves oddly, recently it started printing (and in
print preview) {PAGE} or {TOC} instead of the page numbers and table of
contents. Both show ok while in normal page view. What could be wrong?
I scanned for viruses, found several files infected with the Concept
virus. I've cleared out with SCANPROT.DOT but it did not fix this
problem. Have I accidentally triggered some setting/switch?
Thanks in advance,
Alex Levinson
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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:45:41 -0800
From: "Phillip St. James"
Subject: RGB to NTSC converter WANTED
I need an inexpensive RGB to NTSC converter (not just a decoder) for my
Mac IIci - used is OK. I am running a Radius 24-bit color card, too.
I also would also like to find one or maybe two inexpensive 20- or
21-inch multiscan monitors. Again, used is fine. I live in California
in Silicon Valley. Thanks,
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:29:53 -0800
From: "B.J. Major & Dennis J. Gorin"
Subject: Your recent rantings on Info-Mac....
>Allan: I enjoyed your humor and comments on the recent Info-Mac about the
>next Mac OS. But let's be real. If Apple is no longer bound to be
>"backwards compatible" back to the first Macintosh, something has to be
>done. The System as we know it has reached its limits. We are patched to
>death and hence the crashes, freezes, and whatnots. We need a fresh
>start. The Mac OS as it presently stands cannot do that. And I'm not
>convinced that Copland or any version of what was to be Mac OS 8 could
>have either.
>
>I love the Mac interface as much as anyone else which is one reason I use
>Macintosh. But just maybe our system can be made better with some other
>OS's code right now, whether that is Be, Next, Amiga, or whatever. Those
>particular systems do not have the 12 year backwards-compatible baggage
>our Mac OS has right now. That 12 year baggage is one reason our Power
>PCs do not run the way they should--the patched systems are actually
>holding back the speed that is native to these machines. Ever see a demo
>of Be OS? It's not just faster because it has two processors going. The
>almost same speed can be reached on a single processor CPU running Be OS.
>Yet our same Power Macs cannot achieve this kind of speed or do true
>multitasking.
>
>Personally, I can't wait to see Next OS on our Macs and how it will run.
>I believe Apple is smart enough to know that some elements of our
>interface will have to remain Macintosh to stay Macintosh. But those
>particular elements aren't what needs the work.
>
>And I'm thrilled that Steve Jobs is back within the company.
>
>--bj
>
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