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Info-Mac Digest Sat, 23 Nov 96 Volume 14 : Issue 268
Today's Topics:
(A) IM digests coming as attachments?
[Q] Help needed, sharing 50 documents.
[Q] Odd Freezes
conflict catcher demo on the web
GlobalVillage modems uncompatible with MacPlus?
IM digests coming as attachments? (5 msgs)
Invisible MacTCP
Label Maker Search
LaserWriter 4/600 and System 7.1.1
MS Word does not SAVE even after SAVE
Muffled Startup Sound...
My Drives keep dying
NEEDED: login/access control s/w for rental computers
PaperPort and OCR
StyleWriter 2500 Failure
Suggestion for digest...
Thanks for help with Eudora Light 3.0 and IMD
Truncated sound on startup
Wierd Monitor colour tint
Wordstar converter
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:42:06 +0100
From: Peter Van Avermaet
Subject: (A) IM digests coming as attachments?
I have had a similar problem, albeit with Groupwise.
I posted an article about my experiences some weeks ago (6 Nov).
In brief: in order to get the digest as one long file, send the command
set info-mac shorthdr
to your friendly list-server.
[You can still do this, but not the same way. At least, not for most of you.
Do this. Go to the info-mac www page, http://www.pht.com/info-mac/, and go
to the digest page and then to the starnine list subscription page. From
there,
unsubscribe and then resubscribe with the short header option. -Gordon]
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 10:58:45 -0500
From: Romulo Romero
Subject: [Q] Help needed, sharing 50 documents.
Greetings all. I have been asked to set up a system wherein
each of our department's employees can access his/her vacation
days log (in the form of a MS Word document). The idea is to have
a document per individual, password protected so that onlyt they
can see it. The only way I think this can be done is to create
a folder for person and place the information therein, and them assign
the appropiate user, however, this seems highly innefective.
Does anyone have any better ideas>
Thanks.
Romulo Romero.
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 22:17:33 -0600
From: Marcos Huerta
Subject: [Q] Odd Freezes
All right, get this. Once in awhile, My mac will just freeze up. It
doesn't put any dialog boxes, it doesn't dump into MacsBug, and it does
not go into MacsBug when I hit Command-Power Key.
Also when I turn on with Extensions OFF, the same thing happens after I
try to open any windows in the Finder.
So, there is something wrong, which is supressed by some extension, yet
manages to happen sometimes.
It has frozen during reading a PDF file in Netscape, and when I ran
TextureEyes (A quickdraw 3D demo type program.)
Disk First Aid reports my startup disk is damaged. I am unable to repair
it because when I start up with a minimalist system folder on the CD or a
Zip Disk, it crashes like when extensions are off.
I have a PowerMac 7200/90 running Sys. 7.5.
Help!
Marcos
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 12:50:40 -0800
From:
Subject: conflict catcher demo on the web
>From: Scott Bevan Ford
>
>Hello: Can you guide me to a demo copy of "Conflict Catcher", on the
>WWW?
Scott: Casady & Greene make Conflict Catcher; their home page is:
http://www.casadyg.com/C&G/Welcome.html
The URL for the demo of Conflict Catcher (a fully-functional version that
works for three days) is:
http://www.casadyg.com/C&G/NewLook/Demos/CC3DEMO.hqx
-Dan
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:22:25 +0200
From: Matti Haveri
Subject: GlobalVillage modems uncompatible with MacPlus?
I heard that MacPlus isn't supported by GlobalVillage modems because of
incompatible serial port. I have been under the impression that almost any
modem can be connected to any mac but obviously this isn't quite true.
I don't know if GV modems are _totally_ uncompatible with the Plus or if
they work with some limitations concerning port speed, GV software etc.
What about GV modems on other 68000 macs like SE, Portable, Classic and
PowerBook 100? I have used succesfully a GV PowerPort/Gold on a PB100 and a
2400 DoveFax Desktop on a Plus.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
--
Matti Haveri
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:10:37 -0700
From: Robert Zimmerman
Subject: IM digests coming as attachments?
>Hi folks,
>
>Ever since I upgraded from Eudora Light 1.5.x to Eudora Light 3.0(beta6) my
>IM digests have been appearing as attachments, which when double-clicked
>open as Eudora mailboxes, with each posting showing up as a separate
>message! That would be OK but I really prefer to use Easy View, and it
>just doesn't like 'em that way. I guess I could select all those
>individual messages as a group and do a "Save as.." but that's a pain.
>
>They used to just appear in the body of the message. Now the message just
>has the abstract/TOC type information, and the rest is in the attachment.
>
>Any idea why this is happening?
>
> ----------------
>Martin Forrester
>[email protected]
Go to your settings (under the Special menu), and click on the attachment
icon. Then turn off "Receive MIME digests as attachments". That'll do it.
zimmie
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:58:55 -0500
From: Randall Meadows
Subject: IM digests coming as attachments?
On 11/21/96 at 4:17 PM -0500, Info-Mac wrote:
> Ever since I upgraded from Eudora Light 1.5.x to Eudora Light 3.0(beta6)
>my
> IM digests have been appearing as attachments, which when double-clicked
> open as Eudora mailboxes, with each posting showing up as a separate
> message! That would be OK but I really prefer to use Easy View, and it
> just doesn't like 'em that way. I guess I could select all those
> individual messages as a group and do a "Save as.." but that's a pain.
>
> They used to just appear in the body of the message. Now the message just
> has the abstract/TOC type information, and the rest is in the attachment.
>
> Any idea why this is happening?
There is a setting, probably in the "Attachments" section, named something
like
"Receive MIME digests as attachments."
Uncheck this box to do what you want.
[I'm using Eudora Pro, hence the vagueness of details here.]
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:43:14 -0500
From: Raymond Kallman
Subject: IM digests coming as attachments?
At 1:17 PM -0800 11/21/96, you wrote:
>Ever since I upgraded from Eudora Light 1.5.x to Eudora Light 3.0(beta6) my
>IM digests have been appearing as attachments, which when double-clicked
>open as Eudora mailboxes, with each posting showing up as a separate
>message! That would be OK but I really prefer to use Easy View, and it
>just doesn't like 'em that way. I guess I could select all those
>individual messages as a group and do a "Save as.." but that's a pain.
>
>They used to just appear in the body of the message. Now the message just
>has the abstract/TOC type information, and the rest is in the attachment.
>
>Any idea why this is happening?
Martin,
In Eudora Lite 3.0 betas you can turn this on and off. To turn
this feature off, go into your settings, under "Attachments". Uncheck the
setting "Receive MIME digests as attachments". Eudora will now let you
read them in the way you remember from version 1.5.x.
Regards, Ray
Raymond Kallman [email protected]
Delfin Systems, Norfolk VA Operations
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:48:01 -0700
From: Kreme
Subject: IM digests coming as attachments?
On 20/11/96, Martin Forrester wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Ever since I upgraded from Eudora Light 1.5.x to Eudora Light 3.0(beta6) my
> IM digests have been appearing as attachments, which when double-clicked
> open as Eudora mailboxes, with each posting showing up as a separate
> message! That would be OK but I really prefer to use Easy View, and it
> just doesn't like 'em that way. I guess I could select all those
> individual messages as a group and do a "Save as.." but that's a pain.
Easy view should be able to open the attached mailbox, it' just a mailbox
like any other. By the way, I think this is one of the most usefull
innovations in the new 3.0 version, and the only reason I ever reply to IML
posts anymore.
> Any idea why this is happening?
Because the IML uses the correct MIME encoding to send the digest, and
Eudora now recognizes it.
| [email protected] | 1015 South Gaylord, Denver, CO 80209 #100 |
| WWW URL | |
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:41:47 -0600
From: Pete Resnick
Subject: IM digests coming as attachments?
On 11/20/96 at 11:02 PM -0600, Martin Forrester wrote:
>Ever since I upgraded from Eudora Light 1.5.x to Eudora Light 3.0(beta6) my
>IM digests have been appearing as attachments, which when double-clicked
>open as Eudora mailboxes, with each posting showing up as a separate
>message!
[...]
>Any idea why this is happening?
Yes. In the Attachments section of the Settings dialog, "Receive MIME
digests as attachments" is checked.
Now, personally I am a big fan of this feature (I wonder why), especially
because you can reply to the messages or save them in different mailboxes
if you want to hold onto a copy. Now, if the moderators (Hi Gordon) would
fix the digest software to save the 2 or 3 MIME headers in the individual
messages so that special characters and formatting make it through, and
make the attachment line a URL (yes, you can do that and still use your
mirror site), I would be overjoyed!
>That would be OK but I really prefer to use Easy View, and it
>just doesn't like 'em that way. I guess I could select all those
>individual messages as a group and do a "Save as.." but that's a pain.
OK, if you really want to be a luddite
1. Turn off the checkbox in the Attachments settings.
2. When the message comes in (and it will be one big message), simply drag
it to the Finder. It will be saved in the Finder as one big text file.
3. Drag that file onto Easy View.
Blech.
pr
--
Pete Resnick
QUALCOMM Incorporated
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 08:00:34 EST
From: [email protected]
Subject: Invisible MacTCP
I had installed Open Transport 1.1.1 and OT/PPP 1.0 on a Mac Performa 6115.
At that time, I lost all telecommunications possibilities with my Geoport Gold
modem. I removed all of the Transport and PPP files, and rebooted from my
former System. When I tried to use the modem again, it said I needed MacTCP.
I got my old copy and tried to move it into my Control Panels folder, but
a message said: "An invisible file like the one you are trying to install
already exists." So, of course, I couldn't copy my old MacTCP into the Control
Panels. Does anyone know how to remove such an invisible file, or is there
a work-around to get the MacTCP back again. Thanks in advance. Dennis
Perzanowski
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:36:49 -0700
From: Gordon Moynes
Subject: Label Maker Search
Does anyone know of any shareware label maker software which adheres to
Avery standards? Please e-mail me direct and I will post one to
info-mac. Thanks,
Gord
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 18:16:57 -0500
From: Billy Mayo
Subject: LaserWriter 4/600 and System 7.1.1
Hi all,
I am going to be buying an Apple LaserWriter 4/600 PS soon. I downloaded
the product information file for it and noticed something that I have a
question about. It states that this printer requires System 7.1.1. I
*think* that was the version number for System 7.1 Pro wasn't it?
Anyway, I'm going to be using this with a IIsi running system 7.1 (plus
others). I haven't been able to locate a 7.1 to 7.1.1 updater. Can
anyone tell me how or where to find this seemingly minor update. I
really need to use this printer with this IIsi and I definitely don't
want to upgrade it to 7.5 (major overkill for that system). Any help
will be *greatly* appreciated. Also, if anyone cares to inform me on why
this printer requires that version of the OS and what features it has,
I'd be more than happy to listen.
Thanks!!
Bill Mayo
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:57:31 -0500
From: [email protected] (Michael S. Silverstein)
Subject: MS Word does not SAVE even after SAVE
I have a PowerMac 7600 running MS Word 6.0.
If I save and close a document and sometimes later my computer crashes, the
version that I saved is not saved and the recovered version is an older
version. This is costing me time and frustration.
Is this a known problem in Word?
Would updating to 6.0.1 help?
Is there an updater from 6.0 to 6.0.1?
Thanks for you help!
Michael Silverstein
Materials Engineering
Technion
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:27:44 +0000
From: Adrian Umpleby
Subject: Muffled Startup Sound...
Hi all!
Concerning the muffled startup sound...
I, too have had this problem on my LC630 ever since the day I
bought it.
To explain a bit more precisely:
At startup (after either a restart or after a real shutdown), the
startup sound is often (but not always) cut off a fraction of a
second after it has begun.
This happens no matter where the sound is coming from (i.e.
internal speaker, external speakers plugged in the back,
headphones plugged in the front or when both back and front
sockets are used simultaneously).
There are *no other problems* with sound at any other time that
I have found (games, CD, TV, Quicktime movies, alerts etc.)
I have not an inkling of why this should happen, but since there
are no adverse affects I have not bothered at all about it.
Anyone with any ideas?
======================================
Adrian Umpleby
[email protected]
http://wrench.et.ic.ac.uk/adrian/
======================================
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:24:31 +0000
From: Jag
Subject: My Drives keep dying
Here's the scoop:
1. I have a Centris 660AV, 36 megs ram, 7.5.3
2. I had an Apple 230 meg internal that the controller went bad on. I
couldn't re-format the drive, had to chunk it.
3. Just had my remaining external Apple 170 meg go bad on me, same
symptoms. Cannot re-format. I got weird errors (unimplemented trap
errors), finder memory erros, etc.
4. So I backed it up with the intention of re-formatting and upgrading
to system 7.5.5, but after backing up, if wouldn't take a format.
Could I have a bad controller on the mother board or could it be another
prob with my motherboard?
I also have a APC power supply that SHOULD take care of the brownouts I
have at my house.
Thanks!
JAG
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:29:15 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: NEEDED: login/access control s/w for rental computers
please forgive me for using so many cross posts (especially if this
request doesnt belong in this newsgroup), but im up against a rather
tight deadline (less than 4 weeks, signed/sealed/delivered). i tried
sending a post earlier, but it appears to have been lost in the ether.
were looking for software for a desktop publishing environment that
will enable a user to login to a specific computer, use apps or browse
the net, use a printer, and then logout. upon logging out, the software
would send the data from the rental session to a database (e.g., fm pro)
and send an invoice to the printer. kinko's is using something
*exactly* like what we need (and yes, we're in the process of contacting
them, too)
this would end our current practice of manually noting the time the user
began the session, as well as automate the invoice process. the
database would be a nice feature as well. reason we need automation:
were expecting upwards of 50,000 clients per year, with perhaps 10-20%
renting machines (especially for the net browsing).
are there any shrinkwrap solutions that would allow us to do this? weve
considered several options, including using disc tracey from wayzata
to build our own.
weve also looked at apples at ease for workgroups, but dont know if
we can script "at ease" to handle the invoice side of things.
another alternative: script fm pro to do this stuff, and tie it to
apples at ease for workgroups for access control -- opinions on the
preceding are welcome.
here are some other tools weve found, but dont know if theyre
appropriate:
- NetControl by International Business Software at (408)522-8000
-A.M.E. (Access Managed Environment) by Casady & Greene Inc --
http://www.casadyg.com/
- MacAdministrator and MacPrefect at 508.543.6922 (didnt note the mfr)
- Empower by Magna (408)879-7900
- Mac Control by BDW Software, and like i said
- Disc Tracey - Programmer's Detective by Wayzata Technology, Inc.
Description: 100Mb of source code and utilities including Assembler,
Basic, HyperCard, C, Pascal, etc. (218) 326-0597
and most importantly, the solution would need to maintain the elapsed
time record for a session even if nscape (or some other application)
crashed the machine (it would be great if it would automatically suspend
charging for the length of time it took to recover from the crash).
any and all help, advice, and suggestions will be deeply appreciated.
and as i said in the last post (that evidently didnt make it to the
newsgroups; forgive me if this is a duplicate), ill give some of the
best land in the kingdom to the one who provides me with the solution!
(now all i have to do is find a kingdom, and figure out how to give some
of it away....)
best regards, and thanks in advance for your help
jb
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
technology consulting services
250 w. 57th st., suite 1517-63
new york 10107
212.642.6364 [email protected]
_/_/_/ TCS -- appropriate technology _/_/_/
_/_/_/ solutions and metainformation _/_/_/
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:29:31 -0500
From: "Norman R. Friedman"
Subject: PaperPort and OCR
Can anyone tell me if they are using PaperPort 2 with Read-It OCR 5.0?
The people at Oldavai (Read-It) tell me that it is possible to use that OCR
with the PaperPort, and the Visioneer people tell me that they have never
heard of Read-It. Read-It is a much better OCR than the bundled reader
supplied with PaperPort, and to upgrade to their recommended Omni Pro is
costly. I already have the Read-It, but I cannot seem to get it to show up
on the PaperPort desktop. Any suggestions and thanks in advance for all
help..
Please reply to [email protected]
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 20:53 GMT-0400
From: [email protected] (Laurence Hawkins)
Subject: StyleWriter 2500 Failure
I have a seven month old StyleWriter 2500, that has prematurely failed. It
was bought in the US, but I have been using it here in Barbados , and the
printer will no longer even produce a self test print-out. The local Apple
dealer says the Logic Board is faulty, and a replacement will cost me more
than a new printer. They will not honour the warranty, as the unit was
bought stateside and not through them. Is there any reason to think the
power supply is at fault, as the Power adaptor was for 120v 60Hz, while
local supply is 120v 50Hz? A check on the output voltage of the adaptor
gives me over 15 v, compared with the design 13.5 v. I have frequently used
similar adaptors here in Barbados for modems, hard disks, answering
machines, etc. and have never encountered problems.
Any ideas?
Laurence Hawkins
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:56:18 -0700
From: Kreme
Subject: Suggestion for digest...
couldn't the paths in the messages about new releases be links? I was undr
the impression Anarchie supported a URL format that used your default
info-mac server, the links could be in this format (rather than picking one
of the mirrors for everyone on the list).
What do you think sirs?
| [email protected] | 1015 South Gaylord, Denver, CO 80209 #100 |
| WWW URL | |
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:57:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Martin Forrester
Subject: Thanks for help with Eudora Light 3.0 and IMD
Many thanks to all those who sent me answers to my question about getting
Info Mac digests as an attachment in Eudora Light 3.0.
Although most people seem to like it that way, the main solution pointed
out was to uncheck the box "Receive MIME digests as attachments" under
Special/Settings.../Attachments. (Duh, don't know how I missed that.)
Alternatively, Peter Van Avermaet suggested to send the command
set info-mac shorthdr
to the list-server.
Of course now I'm seriously wondering if I should go with the flow and drop
Easy View...Call it peer pressure...Ah well...
Thanks all!
Martin
----------------
Martin Forrester
[email protected]
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:01:31 -0500
From: "Robert A. McIvor"
Subject: Truncated sound on startup
> At 8:12 PM +0000 11/18/96, Steve Smith wrote:
> >I have a Performa 630/350MB/CD/TV which I recently upgraded to
> >20MB by changing the old 8MB SIMM for a 16MB SIMM.
> >
> >Ever since I did this I have noticed that (most of the time) the
> >startup sound is either truncated (i.e. it doesn't last as long as it
> >used to) or it sounds muffled.
>My PM 7500 unfortunately does this all the time. When it does this, it
>means I have NO sound in the finder or any application, even though
>everything else seems to works fine. If I restart, it usually goes away.
My 7500 has an almost inaudible truncated startup sound on a cold
start, but it does not affect the sound in the finder or any application.
A restart command, or a reboot without powering down gives a normal startup
sound. It has been like that since I purchased it.
Best wishes
Bob McIvor
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:23:31 +0930
From: [email protected] (Monib Mahdavi)
Subject: Wierd Monitor colour tint
Dear MacDudes,
I'm hoping I can can call on some of your knowledge here to help me out.
I'm looking at purchasing a used 16" Mac monitor (trinitron), however it
has a slight green tint to the screen. I've come across this before on
other machines, and appears to come about as a result of the rear monitor
port on the mac being damaged, or is it? In those cases I could wiggle the
cable around a bit and it would correct the display colour. I have seen
them go both orange and green and it didn't appear to be anything serious.
However, before I purchase this one I want to make sure that it's not a
dud, or that I can atleast fix it with little trouble and expense. I've
only checked it on the machine it's on, a Centris, and the monitor works
fine except for the slight colour tint. I've tried adjusting the
colour/brightness but this will not change the green. I've connected a 14"
screen to the same machine and it's fine, so I know it's not the gamma
settings on the machine itself.
Any ideas and advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Monib
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:56:45 -0300
From: Patricio Mason
Subject: Wordstar converter
A friend using an old PC with an old version of Wordstar (the word
processor) often asks me to print her files. I normally have to take these
files to someone else's PC and use a converter utility which turns Wordstar
files into something more acceptable, such as Word or WordPerfect.
This is a pain, of course.
Has anyone ever heard of such a conversion utility for the Macintosh?
Thanks.
Patricio Mason
[email protected]
Santiago, Chile
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