Info-Mac Digest V14 #279
Posted: December 7th, 1996, 6:00 am
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Info-Mac Digest Sat, 7 Dec 96 Volume 14 : Issue 279
Today's Topics:
(?) Info-Mac no longer?
7.5.5 update problems
[Q] "integrated" keyboard suggestion
[Q] 2 Button mouse and DOS Card
[Q] Mail converter Netscape->Emailer
[Q] PowerBook 180 "reverse" video
[Q] Xclaim VR review?
Big Dummy
CD-ROM & OpenTransport
Disallow Cookies?
Downloaded Binary Files in ASCII mode
Generic System and Finder Icons
Info-Mac Digest V14 #278
Older Program Versions
Open Transport Problem
Performa 6400/200 IDE drive
PPC 6100 won't boot
PPP callback [A]
rebuild desktop
Re Which removable drive?
Scrapbook error
SimpleText Problem
Zip drive and Icon problem
The Info-Mac Network operates by the volunteer efforts of:
Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan
The Info-Mac Archive is available at 50 public and private sites around
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Also accessible by ftp. Help files and indexes are also in info-mac/help/.
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Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 17:37:16 -0500
From: Mark Harris
Subject: (?) Info-Mac no longer?
Wow...no files at Info-Mac for 12 days now. Haven't seen anything
indicating an acknowledged delay, although we can guess that perhaps the
holidays are involved in the lack of new files.
Anyone know what's going on? Sorry if I missed an explanation somewhere.
[Hi, sorry. You didn't miss anything. Demitri, our archivist, is going
through grad school finals this week. He promised that we would be caught
by Sunday. Since I don't see anything from him yet (and it is Saturday night),
tomorrow could really kill your mailbox...
I hope. -Gordon]
Lastly, I fully agree with Tony - authors, if you want us to download,
try out, and possibly buy your software, something more than a request
for the Info-Mac folks to delete the old version or a note that this is
an upgrade to an earlier version is necessary to get us to download it.
Otherwise, you're just wasting everyone's time and drive space on
Info-Mac and all the mirrors.
[I agree. Please do it. While we won't reject your uploads, you do reduce
the number of people who will download your software: it is only in your
best interests! -Gordon]
Mark Harris
Raleigh, NC
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 17:23:32 -0800
From: "Joe M. Luzzi"
Subject: 7.5.5 update problems
Hello All,
I am trying to update a 7200/90 Macintosh to 7.5.5. I am doing a clean
(really clean) install.
These are the steps I have taken:
1.) Boot off 7.5.2 CDROM and run drive setup 1.05 to initialize the hard
disk and update disk driver.
2.) Install a clean 7.5.2 System from CDROM.
3.) Reboot
4.) Run the 7.5 Update 2.0 to upgrade to 7.5.3.
5.) Reboot
6.) Run Disk First Aid and check for errors. No errors.
7.) Select 7.5.3 only from extensions manager and reboot (shouldn't matter
since only the operating system is loaded anyway).
8.) Run the 7.5.5 update.
I am getting an error message in the middle of the install of 7.5.5. The
installation gets to the point where it says "optimizing the system file" and
then it stops and says that it cannot copy the system file to my hard disk and
that I should delete the file and try again.
I am following the installation instructions in the readme file and I cannot
understand what this error means.
Please help. Thanks!
--------------------
Joe M. Luzzi
CSU Fullerton
714-773-3251
[email protected]
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:54:17 -0500
From: Jim Mueller
Subject: [Q] "integrated" keyboard suggestion
We have become the proud owners of a PowerMac 8500- definitely a speed
bump from our PowerBook 180. The problem is that we became really used to
having the trackball under our thumb.
MacConnection and MacWarehouse have the Adesso NuForm and Tru-Form split
keyboards with a trackpad in the right spot, or with what I assume is an
IBM-TinkPad-rubber-eraser-stype pointer.
Has anyone tried these configurations? How is Adesso's quality/support?
Are there any other vendors that have this sort of integrated solution- the
ball/pad below the spacebar, not off to the side.
I was actually hoping for a smaller keyboard footprint- more like the
older Apple keyboard without the F-Keys or help-cluster that appeared
alongside the Saratoga. The Datadesk TrackBoard would be great if a smaller
ball was in the right spot.
Jim Mueller- Research Engineering, Pharmacopeia Inc. [email protected]
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:38:17 GMT
From: [email protected] (Richard Marton)
Subject: [Q] 2 Button mouse and DOS Card
Hi all,
I wonder if someone out there can help. I recently installed the original
Apple DOS compatability card in my 6100/60 (486, DX2, 66MHz), it runs
perfectly (well, if DOS can ever be described as such). The problem is that
I'd like to be able to use a second mouse button for a game I want to play
(or even for Windows, if I ever install it). I know the numeric keypad
emulates the right-hand mouse button, but I'd like a real 2 button mouse
which works in both environments. I've already tried the MacWarehouse
version, unfortunately the right button is not recognised by the PC side
(I'm not surprised, but the folks at MacWarehouse assured me that it
would). FYI, I'm using a DOS mouse driver which does recognise the right
mouse button on real DOS systems.
I hope that someone may be able to suggest a solution (not too expensive I
hope) as I can't be the only person with a DOS/Windows card who wants full
mouse functionality.
I am truly sorry that the first time I use this list for help I have to
contaminate it with a question which relates to DOS/Windows
. TIA.
Regards,
Richard Marton.
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 96 20:09:18 +0100
From: Jonatan Lander
Subject: [Q] Mail converter Netscape->Emailer
Does anybody know of a clever way to import Netscape mail to Claris
Emailer ?
Thanks a lot,
Jonatan
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:58:41 -0500
From: Jim Mueller
Subject: [Q] PowerBook 180 "reverse" video
No, not what you're thinking.
What I'd love to do is be able to "dock" our PowerBook 180 to our PowerMac
8500 via SCSI (or whatever) and be able to use the 180's LCD screen as a
second monitor FOR THE 8500. Extra credit if we could use the 180's
keyboard for input.
Jim Mueller- Research Engineering, Pharmacopeia Inc. [email protected]
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 96 15:03:37 -0600
From: Marcos Huerta
Subject: [Q] Xclaim VR review?
I haven't read any critical reviews of the Xclaim VR card. Anyone here
who has one have any comments? Positive or Negative.
TIA,
Marcos
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 02:23:59 +1100
From: Bill Stanford
Subject: Big Dummy
In Info-Mac Digest V14 #278, Chaz Larson wrote
>Sometimes, an article on info-mac [or any mailing list I'm on] will ask a
>question or make a statement that I feel is badly phrased, or illuminates
>some general principle of troubleshooting, or is exceptionally vague, or
>whatever. Occasionally, I feel compelled to comment on such articles, with
>the goal being to illustrate what I feel are the important concepts shown
>therein, hopefully working toward improving the level of mutual support we
>can all provide here.
>
>Whenever I post one of these commentary articles, I try to remember to do
>two things:
> 1. change the subject line, so the article is not seen as a direct reply
> 2. remove reference to the original poster's name, so that the article
> is not seen as a personal attack.
>
>Sometimes I use satire to make my points. Let me apologize for any past or
>future offense that anyone takes at my remarks. I assure you, they are not
>meant as personal attacks. I don't like personal attacks, and try not to
>indulge in them. Sometimes I misinterpret what people say [or usually,
>don't say]; not surprising, since I'm a person, as well.
>
>Now, I realize all this sounds pretty high-and-mighty, and I don't mean it
>to. Please don't interpret these remarks as meaning I place myself on some
>sort of pedestal above the masses; I don't. I'm a big dummy. I learn
>things every day here.
Chaz, you're without doubt one of the best posters Info Mac has at present.
Don't eat any more humble pie! And don't let nitpicking emailers get
you down...
You know that bit from Blade Runner:
Pris: "We're stupid and we'll die"
Roy: "No we won't!"
You any kind of dummy?
No you're not !
bill
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Date: 7 Dec 96 18:34:04 -0500
From: "Don't Panic!"
Subject: CD-ROM & OpenTransport
Dear Digest readers,
It seams whenever I add an external drive with APS Mounter 4.0.4, or
internal CD-ROM, no matter what the contents of the CD-ROM, my
OpenTransport 1.1/FreePPP 2.5v2 totally ignores domain nameservers it dials
up into, or is already connected to. As a result the CD-ROM or external
hard disk prevents me from visiting web sites, checking e-mail or ftping
using TCP/IP. The problem persists until I unmount the disks and reboot.
I am running System 7.5.5, and the problem has persisted since I used
System 7.5.2 and 7.5.3 on my PowerMac 7200/75.
Anybody know why this happens?
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:30:31 +0100
From: Michel Eytan LILoL
Subject: Disallow Cookies?
On 5-12-96 The Info-Mac Moderators hath banged on the keyboard:
>Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 20:28:54 -0800
>From: David Bishop
>Subject: Disallow Cookies?
>
>>Has someone written (or is someone writing) a bit-o-code to automatically
>>disallow the writing of cookies for Macintosh?
>
>Just replace the cookie file with a simpletext document with a few
>characters in it and name it MagicCookie and when sites try to create
>one, one will already be there--albeit a "phony one".
>
>Dave
I am using Cookie Monster 1.5 -- guess from your favourite info-mac mirror
site -- that kills all cookies when you shut down/reboot.
Cheers
~=michel
--
Michel Eytan mailto:[email protected]
"I mean what I say and I say what I mean"
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 96 11:33:10 -0600
From: Lanny Chambers
Subject: Downloaded Binary Files in ASCII mode
>Unawared, I downloaded a number of binary files in default ascii format.
>Is there anything I can do at my end to remedy it.
Have you tried dropping them onto StuffIt Expander? To prevent this in
the future, adjust the MIME options in your browser's helper prefs, or
the defaults in your ftp client.
Lanny Chambers ([email protected]) St. Louis, USA
Visit the Hummingbird Page:
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 10:26:10 -0600
From: Erik M Hjelle
Subject: Generic System and Finder Icons
Hi all,
I'm not sure this is so much a problem as it is an oddity. I have a
PowerBook 5300/16 running 7.5.5. Instead of the customary Finder and
System icons, I am shown generic icons for the Finder and System file.
I don't think this is a problem as I haven't been having any problems
except for the occasionaly crash while using Netscape.
To try to remedy this I have rebuilt my desktop a few times and run Disk
First Aid which reports no problems. I haven't reinstalled a fresh
system folder, though. I am wondering if this is a sign of future
trouble or just an odd occurence that I shouldn't worry about. Any help
or ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Erik
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 96 10:35:08 -0600
From: Andy Zavoina
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #278
>The first is the obvious Zip drive,
>which costs about $150 US after rebate. The Epson Zip drive is listed as
>$130 US, after rebate. Is there any difference between the two besides
>manufactures, and has anyone seen any lower prices in other catalogues
>besides MacZone?
I use a Zip and love it. Others have had problems and tech support stinks
and COSTS. Since I've had no problems I am happy. As the rebate goes, the
Epson sends your money faster than Iomega from what I'd read. Last I saw
it discussed people were waiting 10 weeks plus for the $50 from Iomega
and the Utah Attorneys General was supposedly investigating that issue.
Again, I am very pleased with mine and would consider another if I needed
it. It is becoming a standard and may be included in Apple Macs and Mac
clones. It is in some clones already.
FYI, from today's CNET letter:
>If your hard drive is overflowing with apps, files, graphics, and
>downloads, you need to consider the latest removable storage
>devices. Iomega's Zip and Jaz drives are not the only solutions;
>there are other drives that store more than a floppy disk and run
>as fast as a hard disk. See which technologies and products make
>the cut:
>
> http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Com ... torage/?dd
Good luck.
Andy Zavoina
Bus
Per
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:42:36 -0500
From: [email protected] (Al Bloom)
Subject: Older Program Versions
As Gordon said, there isn't enough space to keep older versions of software
in the I-M archive. As one who downloads a complete directory every month or
so, I believe him. Just the list of titles is half a meg now.
However, there is a solution. The fine folk at Pacific Hitech snap the archive
every now and once and put it on CD-ROM. The first was January 93. It is up
to version 9 now ($40 from www.pht.com). I wouldn't be surprised if they had
some older ones lying about to start your archive. Or start now and get a new
snapshot every year.
Al Bloom, Virginia Tech
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 18:22:03 +0100
From: balmelli
Subject: Open Transport Problem
I have a problem with OT 1.1.1.
After the phone connection is etablished, all the programs I want to use
have problems connecting (Netscape 3.01 tells me that the host has no
DNS entry).
With the usual TCP/IP control panel I have no problems.
Thank's.
--
Marco Balmelli
[email protected]
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 96 13:59:31 -0500
From: Daniel Fisher
Subject: Performa 6400/200 IDE drive
I'd like to move my files from my Centris 610 to my new Performa 6400/200. My
question is "Is it possible to connect my Centris to my Performa by the SCSI
port of the Performa since it has an IDE hard drive?" I've had bad experiences
with conflicting SCSI IDs (both computers crashed). I have a Zip drive so its
not really crucial that I am able to connect the two. It would just be more
convinient.
Thank you for your time,
Daniel Fisher
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:56:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven Ruegsegger
Subject: PPC 6100 won't boot
Ian Silvester wrote about
his 6100 which won't boot periodically. Could this have
anything to do with dying or loose batteries to the ROM?
Maybe the sytem config ROMs are loosing power then
forgetting about the computer and where to boot from.
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 23:14:26 -0500 (EST)
From: "Warren H. James"
Subject: PPP callback [A]
I recently picked up Apple's OT/PPP files in the hope of
facilitating a connection to a call back server. I was
pleasantly surprised. Though the scripting language isn't
for the faint of heart if you start from scratch, there is
a way to have it automatically generate a script for you.
This process involved first connecting with a terminal
window. At this point it will ask you if you would like it
to generate a script. Save this script, then optionally
edit it (there were some unneeded spaces, linefeeds, and
carriage returns.) Then "Import" the script into PPP and
you're on your way.
With a very small amount of editing to the script, I was
able to elegantly automate the connection.
Apple seems to have done a really good job with this one.
-Warren James
--------------------
Warren H. James
email: [email protected] http://www.holli.com/~wjames
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 03:39:48 -0500 (EST)
From: "Warren H. James"
Subject: rebuild desktop
I've seen a bit of weirdness of the type you refer to with and
without my zip drive being involved. The best solution is to
rebuild your desktop. If that doesn't help, try Disk First Aid.
The "Icon" file is the custom icon stuck onto the folder in which
the "Icon" file resides. You can check this out using resedit.
-Warren
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 01:49:43 -0800
> From: [email protected] (Jon Froines)
> Subject: Zip drive and Icon problem
>
> This is possibly the weirdest thing that's happened to me in my 10 years of
> Mac use. I just a got a zip drive. I copied everything from my 1.0 gig
> drive onto zip disks. Here's the weird thing: Most items that have a
> custom icon on my HD have a randomly selected icon (from elsewhere on my
> HD) on the zip disk copy. And even weirder, if the item with the custom
> icon is a folder, the zip disk copy will have a random wrong icon on it, as
> well as a mystery file which will have appeared inside with the icon that
> SHOULD be on the parent folder. This file is always titled simply "icon"
> BUT when I get info on it, sometimes it's an empty text document, sometimes
> a supposed application (that gets an error if you try to run it), and
> sometimes some other file type. The mystery file is always tiny, 3K
> (pretty much equivalent to empty, I guess). Never is the "icon"-named file
> an actual icon file. Anybody know what the heck is going when I'm trying
> to copy to my zip disks and get exactly what I wanted to copy? This has
> gotta be the weirdest bug I've ever experienced. BTW, anyone try to email
> Iomega's support? All I seem to be able to do is request automated info
> files that don't help at all.
>
>
> - JonYo ([email protected])
--------------------
Warren H. James
email: [email protected] http://www.holli.com/~wjames
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 96 15:36:20 BST
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re Which removable drive?
> From: Blayne Welk
> Subject: [Q] Which removable drive?
> I have decided to buy a removable cartridge drive, and am looking
> at three possibilities.
I bought a Syquest EZ135 shortly before the Flyer was announced. I am very
pleased indeed with it. It is ideal as a second hard disk, and I imagine
that the Flyer is just as fast, since they share the same basic mechanism.
The Flyer can read EZ135 disks, but not vice versa.
The Zip uses a different mechanism, arguably (and it has been argued!) more
like a floppy, and is not as fast. If you want to use it primarily for
backups (ie not running applications off it) then this is unlikely to be of
any consequence. Many people are happy running applications off it (but many
people used to be happy running applications off a floppy - it's all
relative).
In my opinion, none of these formats is going to become a standard. The
technology is just changing too rapidly, and current models are obsolete
within a few years as manufacturers compete. So just accept that you are
never going to be able to buy Word 9.1f on a Zip cartridge.
My advice would be to try to find somewhere trying to flog some old stock of
the EZ135. Everyone wants the latest gizmos, but you'll probably find the EZ135
is completely adequate for what you want, and whatever you buy, it will be
obsolete in a few years anyway. The UK Syquest office was practically giving
them away recently. I would not worry about availability of cartridges - even
old 5 1/4 inch cartridges are still readily available.
Ian.
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:13:04 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Scrapbook error
When I try to copy a "thousands of colors" image to the Scrapbook, I get a
"disk full or not enough memory" error. The disk is a half-full 1.2 gb drive,
and my Performa 6300CD was just upgraded to 32 MB of RAM and is definitely
not overtaxed. Anyone have ideas about what might be happening? I have a new
motherboard and memory management chip pursuant to Apple's
inspection/replacement program, and I know of no other problems with the
machine.
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 21:15:31 -0800
From: Gail Curtis McKenzie
Subject: SimpleText Problem
I have a strange - and incredibly problematic - plight. Suddenly, for no
apparent reason, every time I try to use SimpleText, I get an error
message which reads: SimpleText is unable to run because of a serious
error. Sounds dire, doesnt it?
Ive run Norton Utilities & MacTools Pro and they havent found anything
wrong. In fact, everything else seems to be working fine. Have any of
you encountered this problem? Any light you may be able to shine on this
dilemma would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Gail Curtis McKenzie
[email protected]
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 04:30:17 -0500
From: Curtiss Hammock
Subject: Zip drive and Icon problem
JonYo wrote:
> This is possibly the weirdest thing that's happened to me in my 10 years of
> Mac use. I just a got a zip drive. I copied everything from my 1.0 gig
> drive onto zip disks. Here's the weird thing: Most items that have a
> custom icon on my HD have a randomly selected icon (from elsewhere on my
> HD) on the zip disk copy.
Have you tried rebuilding your desktop (standard Mac answer #1)? In my
experience, Zip disks' desktops seem to be highly corruptible (maybe they
should go into politics). Hold down the Command and Option keys while you
insert the disk in question, and say yes when it asks to rebuild the
desktop. Or better yet, download Techtool from Info-Mac.
This should solve your problem.
Good luck!
Curtiss
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Info-Mac Digest Sat, 7 Dec 96 Volume 14 : Issue 279
Today's Topics:
(?) Info-Mac no longer?
7.5.5 update problems
[Q] "integrated" keyboard suggestion
[Q] 2 Button mouse and DOS Card
[Q] Mail converter Netscape->Emailer
[Q] PowerBook 180 "reverse" video
[Q] Xclaim VR review?
Big Dummy
CD-ROM & OpenTransport
Disallow Cookies?
Downloaded Binary Files in ASCII mode
Generic System and Finder Icons
Info-Mac Digest V14 #278
Older Program Versions
Open Transport Problem
Performa 6400/200 IDE drive
PPC 6100 won't boot
PPP callback [A]
rebuild desktop
Re Which removable drive?
Scrapbook error
SimpleText Problem
Zip drive and Icon problem
The Info-Mac Network operates by the volunteer efforts of:
Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan
The Info-Mac Archive is available at 50 public and private sites around
the world. For the site list, request it by mail (address below), or try:
Also accessible by ftp. Help files and indexes are also in info-mac/help/.
Administrative queries & info:
Articles for digest publication:
Files for inclusion:
To submit a file greater than 800K, or to avoid submitting by (and
segmenting for) email, send email describing the file to
and upload it to:
-- username/password macgifts/macgifts at info-mac.org
As with emailed submissions, non-text files must be binhexed.
See our new WWW site: , where you can find
all of this info and more!
The Info-Mac digest is sponsored in part by StarNine Technologies, Inc., a
wholly-owned subsidiary of the Quarterdeck corporation. StarNine develops
Internet server software for the Macintosh, including World Wide Web and e-mail
publishing systems.
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Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 17:37:16 -0500
From: Mark Harris
Subject: (?) Info-Mac no longer?
Wow...no files at Info-Mac for 12 days now. Haven't seen anything
indicating an acknowledged delay, although we can guess that perhaps the
holidays are involved in the lack of new files.
Anyone know what's going on? Sorry if I missed an explanation somewhere.
[Hi, sorry. You didn't miss anything. Demitri, our archivist, is going
through grad school finals this week. He promised that we would be caught
by Sunday. Since I don't see anything from him yet (and it is Saturday night),
tomorrow could really kill your mailbox...
I hope. -Gordon]Lastly, I fully agree with Tony - authors, if you want us to download,
try out, and possibly buy your software, something more than a request
for the Info-Mac folks to delete the old version or a note that this is
an upgrade to an earlier version is necessary to get us to download it.
Otherwise, you're just wasting everyone's time and drive space on
Info-Mac and all the mirrors.
[I agree. Please do it. While we won't reject your uploads, you do reduce
the number of people who will download your software: it is only in your
best interests! -Gordon]
Mark Harris
Raleigh, NC
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 17:23:32 -0800
From: "Joe M. Luzzi"
Subject: 7.5.5 update problems
Hello All,
I am trying to update a 7200/90 Macintosh to 7.5.5. I am doing a clean
(really clean) install.
These are the steps I have taken:
1.) Boot off 7.5.2 CDROM and run drive setup 1.05 to initialize the hard
disk and update disk driver.
2.) Install a clean 7.5.2 System from CDROM.
3.) Reboot
4.) Run the 7.5 Update 2.0 to upgrade to 7.5.3.
5.) Reboot
6.) Run Disk First Aid and check for errors. No errors.
7.) Select 7.5.3 only from extensions manager and reboot (shouldn't matter
since only the operating system is loaded anyway).
8.) Run the 7.5.5 update.
I am getting an error message in the middle of the install of 7.5.5. The
installation gets to the point where it says "optimizing the system file" and
then it stops and says that it cannot copy the system file to my hard disk and
that I should delete the file and try again.
I am following the installation instructions in the readme file and I cannot
understand what this error means.
Please help. Thanks!
--------------------
Joe M. Luzzi
CSU Fullerton
714-773-3251
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:54:17 -0500
From: Jim Mueller
Subject: [Q] "integrated" keyboard suggestion
We have become the proud owners of a PowerMac 8500- definitely a speed
bump from our PowerBook 180. The problem is that we became really used to
having the trackball under our thumb.
MacConnection and MacWarehouse have the Adesso NuForm and Tru-Form split
keyboards with a trackpad in the right spot, or with what I assume is an
IBM-TinkPad-rubber-eraser-stype pointer.
Has anyone tried these configurations? How is Adesso's quality/support?
Are there any other vendors that have this sort of integrated solution- the
ball/pad below the spacebar, not off to the side.
I was actually hoping for a smaller keyboard footprint- more like the
older Apple keyboard without the F-Keys or help-cluster that appeared
alongside the Saratoga. The Datadesk TrackBoard would be great if a smaller
ball was in the right spot.
Jim Mueller- Research Engineering, Pharmacopeia Inc. [email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:38:17 GMT
From: [email protected] (Richard Marton)
Subject: [Q] 2 Button mouse and DOS Card
Hi all,
I wonder if someone out there can help. I recently installed the original
Apple DOS compatability card in my 6100/60 (486, DX2, 66MHz), it runs
perfectly (well, if DOS can ever be described as such). The problem is that
I'd like to be able to use a second mouse button for a game I want to play
(or even for Windows, if I ever install it). I know the numeric keypad
emulates the right-hand mouse button, but I'd like a real 2 button mouse
which works in both environments. I've already tried the MacWarehouse
version, unfortunately the right button is not recognised by the PC side
(I'm not surprised, but the folks at MacWarehouse assured me that it
would). FYI, I'm using a DOS mouse driver which does recognise the right
mouse button on real DOS systems.
I hope that someone may be able to suggest a solution (not too expensive I
hope) as I can't be the only person with a DOS/Windows card who wants full
mouse functionality.
I am truly sorry that the first time I use this list for help I have to
contaminate it with a question which relates to DOS/Windows
. TIA.Regards,
Richard Marton.
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 96 20:09:18 +0100
From: Jonatan Lander
Subject: [Q] Mail converter Netscape->Emailer
Does anybody know of a clever way to import Netscape mail to Claris
Emailer ?
Thanks a lot,
Jonatan
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:58:41 -0500
From: Jim Mueller
Subject: [Q] PowerBook 180 "reverse" video
No, not what you're thinking.
What I'd love to do is be able to "dock" our PowerBook 180 to our PowerMac
8500 via SCSI (or whatever) and be able to use the 180's LCD screen as a
second monitor FOR THE 8500. Extra credit if we could use the 180's
keyboard for input.
Jim Mueller- Research Engineering, Pharmacopeia Inc. [email protected]
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 96 15:03:37 -0600
From: Marcos Huerta
Subject: [Q] Xclaim VR review?
I haven't read any critical reviews of the Xclaim VR card. Anyone here
who has one have any comments? Positive or Negative.
TIA,
Marcos
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 02:23:59 +1100
From: Bill Stanford
Subject: Big Dummy
In Info-Mac Digest V14 #278, Chaz Larson wrote
>Sometimes, an article on info-mac [or any mailing list I'm on] will ask a
>question or make a statement that I feel is badly phrased, or illuminates
>some general principle of troubleshooting, or is exceptionally vague, or
>whatever. Occasionally, I feel compelled to comment on such articles, with
>the goal being to illustrate what I feel are the important concepts shown
>therein, hopefully working toward improving the level of mutual support we
>can all provide here.
>
>Whenever I post one of these commentary articles, I try to remember to do
>two things:
> 1. change the subject line, so the article is not seen as a direct reply
> 2. remove reference to the original poster's name, so that the article
> is not seen as a personal attack.
>
>Sometimes I use satire to make my points. Let me apologize for any past or
>future offense that anyone takes at my remarks. I assure you, they are not
>meant as personal attacks. I don't like personal attacks, and try not to
>indulge in them. Sometimes I misinterpret what people say [or usually,
>don't say]; not surprising, since I'm a person, as well.
>
>Now, I realize all this sounds pretty high-and-mighty, and I don't mean it
>to. Please don't interpret these remarks as meaning I place myself on some
>sort of pedestal above the masses; I don't. I'm a big dummy. I learn
>things every day here.
Chaz, you're without doubt one of the best posters Info Mac has at present.
Don't eat any more humble pie!
And don't let nitpicking emailers getyou down...
You know that bit from Blade Runner:
Pris: "We're stupid and we'll die"
Roy: "No we won't!"
You any kind of dummy?
No you're not !
bill
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Date: 7 Dec 96 18:34:04 -0500
From: "Don't Panic!"
Subject: CD-ROM & OpenTransport
Dear Digest readers,
It seams whenever I add an external drive with APS Mounter 4.0.4, or
internal CD-ROM, no matter what the contents of the CD-ROM, my
OpenTransport 1.1/FreePPP 2.5v2 totally ignores domain nameservers it dials
up into, or is already connected to. As a result the CD-ROM or external
hard disk prevents me from visiting web sites, checking e-mail or ftping
using TCP/IP. The problem persists until I unmount the disks and reboot.
I am running System 7.5.5, and the problem has persisted since I used
System 7.5.2 and 7.5.3 on my PowerMac 7200/75.
Anybody know why this happens?
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:30:31 +0100
From: Michel Eytan LILoL
Subject: Disallow Cookies?
On 5-12-96 The Info-Mac Moderators hath banged on the keyboard:
>Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 20:28:54 -0800
>From: David Bishop
>Subject: Disallow Cookies?
>
>>Has someone written (or is someone writing) a bit-o-code to automatically
>>disallow the writing of cookies for Macintosh?
>
>Just replace the cookie file with a simpletext document with a few
>characters in it and name it MagicCookie and when sites try to create
>one, one will already be there--albeit a "phony one".
>
>Dave
I am using Cookie Monster 1.5 -- guess from your favourite info-mac mirror
site -- that kills all cookies when you shut down/reboot.
Cheers
~=michel
--
Michel Eytan mailto:[email protected]
"I mean what I say and I say what I mean"
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 96 11:33:10 -0600
From: Lanny Chambers
Subject: Downloaded Binary Files in ASCII mode
>Unawared, I downloaded a number of binary files in default ascii format.
>Is there anything I can do at my end to remedy it.
Have you tried dropping them onto StuffIt Expander? To prevent this in
the future, adjust the MIME options in your browser's helper prefs, or
the defaults in your ftp client.
Lanny Chambers ([email protected]) St. Louis, USA
Visit the Hummingbird Page:
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 10:26:10 -0600
From: Erik M Hjelle
Subject: Generic System and Finder Icons
Hi all,
I'm not sure this is so much a problem as it is an oddity. I have a
PowerBook 5300/16 running 7.5.5. Instead of the customary Finder and
System icons, I am shown generic icons for the Finder and System file.
I don't think this is a problem as I haven't been having any problems
except for the occasionaly crash while using Netscape.
To try to remedy this I have rebuilt my desktop a few times and run Disk
First Aid which reports no problems. I haven't reinstalled a fresh
system folder, though. I am wondering if this is a sign of future
trouble or just an odd occurence that I shouldn't worry about. Any help
or ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Erik
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 96 10:35:08 -0600
From: Andy Zavoina
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #278
>The first is the obvious Zip drive,
>which costs about $150 US after rebate. The Epson Zip drive is listed as
>$130 US, after rebate. Is there any difference between the two besides
>manufactures, and has anyone seen any lower prices in other catalogues
>besides MacZone?
I use a Zip and love it. Others have had problems and tech support stinks
and COSTS. Since I've had no problems I am happy. As the rebate goes, the
Epson sends your money faster than Iomega from what I'd read. Last I saw
it discussed people were waiting 10 weeks plus for the $50 from Iomega
and the Utah Attorneys General was supposedly investigating that issue.
Again, I am very pleased with mine and would consider another if I needed
it. It is becoming a standard and may be included in Apple Macs and Mac
clones. It is in some clones already.
FYI, from today's CNET letter:
>If your hard drive is overflowing with apps, files, graphics, and
>downloads, you need to consider the latest removable storage
>devices. Iomega's Zip and Jaz drives are not the only solutions;
>there are other drives that store more than a floppy disk and run
>as fast as a hard disk. See which technologies and products make
>the cut:
>
> http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Com ... torage/?dd
Good luck.
Andy Zavoina
Bus
Per
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:42:36 -0500
From: [email protected] (Al Bloom)
Subject: Older Program Versions
As Gordon said, there isn't enough space to keep older versions of software
in the I-M archive. As one who downloads a complete directory every month or
so, I believe him. Just the list of titles is half a meg now.
However, there is a solution. The fine folk at Pacific Hitech snap the archive
every now and once and put it on CD-ROM. The first was January 93. It is up
to version 9 now ($40 from www.pht.com). I wouldn't be surprised if they had
some older ones lying about to start your archive. Or start now and get a new
snapshot every year.
Al Bloom, Virginia Tech
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 18:22:03 +0100
From: balmelli
Subject: Open Transport Problem
I have a problem with OT 1.1.1.
After the phone connection is etablished, all the programs I want to use
have problems connecting (Netscape 3.01 tells me that the host has no
DNS entry).
With the usual TCP/IP control panel I have no problems.
Thank's.
--
Marco Balmelli
[email protected]
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 96 13:59:31 -0500
From: Daniel Fisher
Subject: Performa 6400/200 IDE drive
I'd like to move my files from my Centris 610 to my new Performa 6400/200. My
question is "Is it possible to connect my Centris to my Performa by the SCSI
port of the Performa since it has an IDE hard drive?" I've had bad experiences
with conflicting SCSI IDs (both computers crashed). I have a Zip drive so its
not really crucial that I am able to connect the two. It would just be more
convinient.
Thank you for your time,
Daniel Fisher
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:56:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven Ruegsegger
Subject: PPC 6100 won't boot
Ian Silvester wrote about
his 6100 which won't boot periodically. Could this have
anything to do with dying or loose batteries to the ROM?
Maybe the sytem config ROMs are loosing power then
forgetting about the computer and where to boot from.
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 23:14:26 -0500 (EST)
From: "Warren H. James"
Subject: PPP callback [A]
I recently picked up Apple's OT/PPP files in the hope of
facilitating a connection to a call back server. I was
pleasantly surprised. Though the scripting language isn't
for the faint of heart if you start from scratch, there is
a way to have it automatically generate a script for you.
This process involved first connecting with a terminal
window. At this point it will ask you if you would like it
to generate a script. Save this script, then optionally
edit it (there were some unneeded spaces, linefeeds, and
carriage returns.) Then "Import" the script into PPP and
you're on your way.
With a very small amount of editing to the script, I was
able to elegantly automate the connection.
Apple seems to have done a really good job with this one.
-Warren James
--------------------
Warren H. James
email: [email protected] http://www.holli.com/~wjames
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 03:39:48 -0500 (EST)
From: "Warren H. James"
Subject: rebuild desktop
I've seen a bit of weirdness of the type you refer to with and
without my zip drive being involved. The best solution is to
rebuild your desktop. If that doesn't help, try Disk First Aid.
The "Icon" file is the custom icon stuck onto the folder in which
the "Icon" file resides. You can check this out using resedit.
-Warren
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 01:49:43 -0800
> From: [email protected] (Jon Froines)
> Subject: Zip drive and Icon problem
>
> This is possibly the weirdest thing that's happened to me in my 10 years of
> Mac use. I just a got a zip drive. I copied everything from my 1.0 gig
> drive onto zip disks. Here's the weird thing: Most items that have a
> custom icon on my HD have a randomly selected icon (from elsewhere on my
> HD) on the zip disk copy. And even weirder, if the item with the custom
> icon is a folder, the zip disk copy will have a random wrong icon on it, as
> well as a mystery file which will have appeared inside with the icon that
> SHOULD be on the parent folder. This file is always titled simply "icon"
> BUT when I get info on it, sometimes it's an empty text document, sometimes
> a supposed application (that gets an error if you try to run it), and
> sometimes some other file type. The mystery file is always tiny, 3K
> (pretty much equivalent to empty, I guess). Never is the "icon"-named file
> an actual icon file. Anybody know what the heck is going when I'm trying
> to copy to my zip disks and get exactly what I wanted to copy? This has
> gotta be the weirdest bug I've ever experienced. BTW, anyone try to email
> Iomega's support? All I seem to be able to do is request automated info
> files that don't help at all.
>
>
> - JonYo ([email protected])
--------------------
Warren H. James
email: [email protected] http://www.holli.com/~wjames
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 96 15:36:20 BST
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re Which removable drive?
> From: Blayne Welk
> Subject: [Q] Which removable drive?
> I have decided to buy a removable cartridge drive, and am looking
> at three possibilities.
I bought a Syquest EZ135 shortly before the Flyer was announced. I am very
pleased indeed with it. It is ideal as a second hard disk, and I imagine
that the Flyer is just as fast, since they share the same basic mechanism.
The Flyer can read EZ135 disks, but not vice versa.
The Zip uses a different mechanism, arguably (and it has been argued!) more
like a floppy, and is not as fast. If you want to use it primarily for
backups (ie not running applications off it) then this is unlikely to be of
any consequence. Many people are happy running applications off it (but many
people used to be happy running applications off a floppy - it's all
relative).
In my opinion, none of these formats is going to become a standard. The
technology is just changing too rapidly, and current models are obsolete
within a few years as manufacturers compete. So just accept that you are
never going to be able to buy Word 9.1f on a Zip cartridge.
My advice would be to try to find somewhere trying to flog some old stock of
the EZ135. Everyone wants the latest gizmos, but you'll probably find the EZ135
is completely adequate for what you want, and whatever you buy, it will be
obsolete in a few years anyway. The UK Syquest office was practically giving
them away recently. I would not worry about availability of cartridges - even
old 5 1/4 inch cartridges are still readily available.
Ian.
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:13:04 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Scrapbook error
When I try to copy a "thousands of colors" image to the Scrapbook, I get a
"disk full or not enough memory" error. The disk is a half-full 1.2 gb drive,
and my Performa 6300CD was just upgraded to 32 MB of RAM and is definitely
not overtaxed. Anyone have ideas about what might be happening? I have a new
motherboard and memory management chip pursuant to Apple's
inspection/replacement program, and I know of no other problems with the
machine.
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 21:15:31 -0800
From: Gail Curtis McKenzie
Subject: SimpleText Problem
I have a strange - and incredibly problematic - plight. Suddenly, for no
apparent reason, every time I try to use SimpleText, I get an error
message which reads: SimpleText is unable to run because of a serious
error. Sounds dire, doesnt it?
Ive run Norton Utilities & MacTools Pro and they havent found anything
wrong. In fact, everything else seems to be working fine. Have any of
you encountered this problem? Any light you may be able to shine on this
dilemma would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Gail Curtis McKenzie
[email protected]
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 04:30:17 -0500
From: Curtiss Hammock
Subject: Zip drive and Icon problem
JonYo wrote:
> This is possibly the weirdest thing that's happened to me in my 10 years of
> Mac use. I just a got a zip drive. I copied everything from my 1.0 gig
> drive onto zip disks. Here's the weird thing: Most items that have a
> custom icon on my HD have a randomly selected icon (from elsewhere on my
> HD) on the zip disk copy.
Have you tried rebuilding your desktop (standard Mac answer #1)? In my
experience, Zip disks' desktops seem to be highly corruptible (maybe they
should go into politics). Hold down the Command and Option keys while you
insert the disk in question, and say yes when it asks to rebuild the
desktop. Or better yet, download Techtool from Info-Mac.
This should solve your problem.
Good luck!
Curtiss
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