Info-Mac Digest V14 #267
Posted: November 21st, 1996, 6:00 am
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 13:17:18 PST
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Info-Mac Digest Thu, 21 Nov 96 Volume 14 : Issue 267
Today's Topics:
?
[A] File Sharing - How do I NOT share removable media.
[Q] Funny ASCII mistakes
aaron and scroll arrows
American Heritage Dictionary: other probs..
CGI
Communication problems with LWIINT
Dear Sir,
error 11 again
Eudora email to Filemaker?
IM digests coming as attachments?
Info-Mac Digest V14 #265
Mac / Windows for Workgroups
My Info-Mac to HTML 1.1.0 doesn't work!
Sharing Printer on an Ethernet Network
Stereo on my mac? not really
Truncated sound on startup
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:25:46 -0700
From: Scott Bevan Ford
Subject: ?
Wednesday, November 20, 1996
6:25 PM
Hello: Can you guide me to a demo copy of "Conflict Catcher", on the
WWW?
Thanks very much.
Scott Forde
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:14:56 GMT
From: [email protected] (Wiley Sanders)
Subject: [A] File Sharing - How do I NOT share removable media.
The valuable prize (4 256K Mac Plus SIMMS) goes to Benjamin Turner, who
answered:
> ... It sounds like the user 'wms' (which is the 'owner' user)
> in the Users & Groups Control panel probably has the "Allow user to see
> entire disk" option checked, which means that when that user logs in,
> and since they are the owner of the computer, they can see the entire
> computer -- all currently mounted local disks.
This "magic box" is enabled by default. Unchecking it allows only part
of the disk to be shared, as I desire. When the entire disk is shared,
any removable media inserted (Syquests and CDROMs) get shared too. The
open files at the "desktop" (what I would call "root") level of each
disk royally confuse DiskFit, and "Erase Disk" does not work, and there
are other strange side effects (endless "insert the disk loops,
e.g.)
-w
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:26:41 -0800
From: "David L. Ellis"
Subject: [Q] Funny ASCII mistakes
Hi,
I often get some very strange ASCII mistakes that are quite consistent in
my info-mac digests. For example, a uppercase F will show up as =46 rather
than F. and so on. In these messages, every F will be "=46" all throughout
the message, not just once. Why is this?
David L. Ellis
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:34:52 -0500
From: [email protected] (Graeme Forbes)
Subject: aaron and scroll arrows
Does anyone know if there's a way of adding bidirectional scroll arrows to
the scroll bars of windows, if you're using a recent version of Aaron?
There was something called Aaron Aesthetics which would do this but it
doesn't seem to work on newer versions of Aaron. Similarly for Scroll2 and
Doublescroll. Bidirectional scroll arrows are *very* helpful if you have a
large screen - I can't imagine why they're not a staple of the interface.
Graeme Forbes
------------------------------
Date: 21 Nov 96 16:01:14 +0200
From: Elliot Bennett
Subject: American Heritage Dictionary: other probs..
Subject American Heritage Dictionary: other probs.. 20.11.=
96
16:43
Tom Martin mentioned some short falls in the American Heritage Talking =
Dictionary (AHTD) in IM #262 and I just wanted to add a couple comments (=
in case anyone's interested):
1) Each time you start AHTD and don't have the accompanying CD in your CD-=
ROM drive you ALWAYS get the message "Multimedia features of AHTD will not =
be available because the CD is not in the CD-ROM drive..." Now, I happen =
to prefer the speed of the hard disk (and use my CD-ROM for other things =
and don't always want to tie it up for the occasional picture or =
pronunciation). Thus I KNOW that it's not installed and I will not have =
these features- it would be nice if they gave you an option of turning =
this very annoying dialog off...
2) In the last version, you could start typing letters into the lookup =
field and the browse window would automatically jump to the word nearest =
what you've already typed in. Why they removed this HIGHLY useful feature =
is completely beyond me... (Because there are so many words in the =
dictionary attempting to scroll to anywhere near the word you're looking =
for makes using the Browse window virtually useless.)
I haven't had the problems Tom mentioned, but then I'm running on a Q630 (=
not PPC). That said, the American Heritage (paper version at least) is by =
far the best dictionary around (IMHO
- it's just too bad they've a) =
missed some VERY critical features in the s/w and b) have seriously =
lacking support.
If anyone knows of a current e-mail address for their tech support I'd =
love to forward these comments...
Thanks for your patience...
Elliot Bennett
Cologne, Germany
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 01:41:29 +1100
From: Pikuan Susanto (USSS)
Subject: CGI
How do i make guest book?
Does FORM need CGI script? If yes, how can i do it?
What's the best webpage authoring tool, commercial and shareware?
comments are welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Pikuan
http://www.dezzanet.net.au/~pikuans
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:26:20 -0500
From: Richard Friedman
Subject: Communication problems with LWIINT
My computer no longer recognizes my LWIINT. I know the problem is not
with my LCII because it can communicate with my HP DeskJet. I have an HP
LaserJet II, which looks virtually identical except the port is a
parallel (or is it serial). I would use that but the rollers are bad.
The question is can I use the comm board from the HP to run the LW? If
not, any ideas if it's worth repairing the comm board on the LWII?
Rich
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 20:19:4 GMT
From: [email protected]
Subject: Dear Sir,
my name's Fabrizio Ferrari, I'm italian and i need to found a free chess
program for Macintosh (my computer is a Performa 630) on INTERNET. Can you
help me?
Thanks in advance.
Fabrizio Ferrari
E-MAIL: [email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:52:42 +0100
From: [email protected] (Paolo Bartoli)
Subject: error 11 again
It happens that, trying to open an application (like FormZ or else) I get
an "system error 11". What does it means, and overall, can I do something
to solve it?
Thanx
** Paolo Bartoli email: [email protected] **
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:36:00 +0000
From: Marcel Aussendorf
Subject: Eudora email to Filemaker?
Hi all mac-folks,
Some weeks ago I started to use Claris Emailer as my primary email-tool,
thereby replacing my old, trusty Eudora Lite. I really like it, despite
some rather frustrating drawbacks:
- the filing system: one message per file does tremendously increase the
disk-space needed
- booming ram-requirements: 1,5 mb to 0,5 mb for Eudora.
First question:
Some people discussed the use of Filemaker Pro in conjunction with
Emailer to send bulk-mailings. I wonder if FM Pro could also be used as a
mail archiving system for Emailer. I really like to store my mail in a
FM-database. Are there any thoughts or perhaps utilities developped for
this?
Second question:
I need to convert the Eudora-email boxes to a tab-delimited text format
that can be imported to FM. I found that just using the 'Save As' command
in Eudora won't do this job, because some message-information is set
aside. Is there an utility to do this job?
TIA
---------------------------------
Marcel K.M. Aussendorf
[email protected]
[email protected]
Katholieke Universiteit Nijmegen
Nijmegen, The Netherlands
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:02:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Martin Forrester
Subject: IM digests coming as attachments?
Hi folks,
Ever since I upgraded from Eudora Light 1.5.x to Eudora Light 3.0(beta6) my
IM digests have been appearing as attachments, which when double-clicked
open as Eudora mailboxes, with each posting showing up as a separate
message! That would be OK but I really prefer to use Easy View, and it
just doesn't like 'em that way. I guess I could select all those
individual messages as a group and do a "Save as.." but that's a pain.
They used to just appear in the body of the message. Now the message just
has the abstract/TOC type information, and the rest is in the attachment.
Any idea why this is happening?
----------------
Martin Forrester
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:44:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Sang-il Park
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #265
Dear Info-macer,
What I wanna have full control of 9500 in my lab from my Mac at my home.
My Mac is with modem, but Mac 9500 is on the ethernet.
Usually I called my school network using my modem, then type telnet command.
Or I can use PPP connection.
But all I've done is from Mac to Workstation, like SUN, or HP machines.
I have no experience between Mac to Mac, one has modem in my home
the other is on Ethernet in my school.
Which software I have to buy ?
Apple remote Access ? or Timbuktu ?
TIA,
[email protected] 336498 GA Tech Station
http://www.ece.gatech.edu/users/spark Atlanta, GA 30332-1685
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:53:01 -0700
From: [email protected] (Stephen Grady)
Subject: Mac / Windows for Workgroups
>I am a Mac user in a company that has only IBM compatible PC's and MF and
>VAX and Sun. The PC's share data using a Windows for Workgroup network and
>they also share an HP printer on that same network. (Ethernet)
>Much in the same way as my Apple Fileshare ans Printershare at home.
>
>Once in a while I connect using serial transfers, however I would love to buy
>an Ethernet card for my Mac to hook in. However this only makes sense
>if I have a way of using file and/or printer sharing. Does ANYBODY have
>an idea, if connecting to a WfW network is possible ? How? What Product?
>I am aware of alternatives like a TCP/IP stack on the PC etc.
>
>Thanks for your help and info
>
>Jan Toonen
>Mac User in an alien environment
Miramar's Personal MacLAN. Windows application (3.11 or 95) that installs
an Appleshare stack on a single PC (I suggest the server).
Downside:
1. Non-Mac interface (but it is going on a Windows machine--what do you
expect).
2. You end up with a lot of files that start with # on the PC. Those are
the resource forks of Mac files transferred to the PC.
3. PC files will not open with double clicking (unless you have your system
recognizing PC file extensions i.e., .xls is an Excel file, and of course,
extensions are used correctly).
4. One PC only to a theoritical maximum of 5 Macs (most people I hear from
are a single Mac in a multi PC world).
5. Only will share Postscript printers on the PC network.
Upside:
1. Super easy to use on either platform once installed. Uses the FInder
and its windows on the Mac, File Manager on the PC. Also works from within
applications.
2. Great for applications that exist on both platforms that share document
formats, i.e, Microsoft Word and Excel. I work on my Mac. Copy to the PC,
can then edit it, and copy back to the Mac and open it and work on it some
more.
3. Inexpensive. Check your software supplier. I picked it up for CAN$199.
4. Works on any PC network, assuming the machines have the capability
(Localtalk, ethernet, etc.).
To sum up, I find it an excellent product and recommend that people check
it out whenever this question is asked.
I have nothing to do with Miramar, other than being a satisfied customer.
Stephen Grady
[email protected]
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:17:56 +0100
From: [email protected] (Claudio Fogliato)
Subject: My Info-Mac to HTML 1.1.0 doesn't work!
Hi,
I'm experiencing problems with the converer for Info-Mac digests. When I
try to convert a file (text from Eudora with guess paragraph off)
application 'unexpectedly quit' for an error type 12. Is that a know bug of
this version or maybe a problem of mine?
regards,
Claudio
_______________________
Claudio Fogliato
E-mail: [email protected]
**PGP KEY AVAILABLE**
_______________________
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:16:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Ethan Benatan
Subject: Sharing Printer on an Ethernet Network
>>> "RW" == Rick D Wintheiser wrote:
RW> I will be implementing a network of PowerPC's and several
RW> localtalk printers.... I'd
RW> like to set it up with minimum pain and maximum speed. Any
RW> ideas? I've heard about the LocalTalk Bridge, is this a
RW> solution? Will I still need to dedicate a computer to this? Is
RW> there some kind of FAQ? Will any hub work? (wow didn't think I
RW> had all these questions!)
I'm not wildly experienced at this, but I am about 2 jumps ahead if
where you are right now
so here goes.
LaserWriter Bridge is a control panel that comes free from Apple that
allows a single Mac to act as a bridge between an EtherTalk network
and one or more printers on a LocalTalk network. It does not require
a dedicated computer, but obviously if the computer on which it is
running is busy, it will be slow. I have two trouble-free
installations and one trouble-prone installation at the moment, all in
the same building. One drawback is that when one computer on a
LocalTalk network is running LaserWriter Bridge, none of the other
computers on that LocalTalk network can use AppleShare over
LocalTalk. See the docs for details.
LocalTalk bridge is along the same lines, but commercial from Apple;
it acts as a two-way bridge so that a variety of devices on the
LocalTalk segment can communicate with the EtherTalk side. If you
only care about printers, you don't need it. Cost around $100, I
think.
I have just ordered (but not yet received) a hardware bridge from
Farallon; they have two flavors, one for 1 printer and one for a
LocalTalk network of up to 7 or 8 devices. The price difference is
only $50 or so, they are both in the $200-$300 range. Ask me in a
couple of weeks and I'll let you know how it turns out... I suspect
that it will be faster and more reliable.
More info: the Apple SW updates web site has a disk image with
LaserWriter bridge plus an updater for LocalTalk bridge. I don't have
the URL to hand, but I think it is under Networking. There's info on
the LocalTalk bridge at
Farallon are wonderful folks who can be found at
.
Hope this helps-
Ethan
_____________
Ethan Benatan [email protected] http://www.pitt.edu/~ethan
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:19:46 -0400
From: [email protected] (Alain Chabot)
Subject: Stereo on my mac? not really
Hi,
I recently decided to buy a pair of external speakers for my Power Mac 8100
AV. As soon as I got them out of the box, I connected them to the headphone
port on the foot of my monitor, popped a CD in the CD drive and got sound
only from the right channel. Weird. So I fumbled a bit with the plug and
discovered that I can get stereo sound from the thing if I pull the plug
partly out of the port. This reminded me I had had the same problem with my
Walkman headphones a while back. So, decided to solve the problem by
pluging my speakers directly into the sound jack at the back of my mac.
Guess what: I had the same problem there.
I called a friend who works for an Apple dealer and he told me the Apple
jacks are not standard. It appears that a while ago there was _no_ de facto
standard and that Apple just adopted a size for its machines. Well, that
may have been true 10 years ago (hard to believe considering Walkmans have
been around since almost forever and their jack _are_ standard across
companies), but I bought this Mac as a Quadra 800 about 5 years ago and
upgraded it to a Power Mac last Fall. The idea that one year ago Apple was
selling logic boards that have non-standard sound jacks boggles the mind.
It appears there is some adaptor that can solve this very vexing problem.
Anybody has a clue?
Thanks
Alain Chabot
Universite Sainte Anne
Church Point, Nova Scotia
Canada
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:58:54 -0800
From: [email protected] (Jon Froines)
Subject: Truncated sound on startup
> At 8:12 PM +0000 11/18/96, Steve Smith wrote:
> >I have a Performa 630/350MB/CD/TV which I recently upgraded to
> >20MB by changing the old 8MB SIMM for a 16MB SIMM.
> >
> >Ever since I did this I have noticed that (most of the time) the
> >startup sound is either truncated (i.e. it doesn't last as long as it
> >used to) or it sounds muffled.
My PM 7500 unfortunately does this all the time. When it does this, it
means I have NO sound in the finder or any application, even though
everything else seems to works fine. If I restart, it usually goes away.
This is probably the most annoying problem I've ever had with this PM 7500.
Do you have ok sound once you've started up? If so, that's way weird. If
not, then it's probably some nasty system problem like I seem to have.
- JonYo ([email protected])
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Info-Mac Digest Thu, 21 Nov 96 Volume 14 : Issue 267
Today's Topics:
?
[A] File Sharing - How do I NOT share removable media.
[Q] Funny ASCII mistakes
aaron and scroll arrows
American Heritage Dictionary: other probs..
CGI
Communication problems with LWIINT
Dear Sir,
error 11 again
Eudora email to Filemaker?
IM digests coming as attachments?
Info-Mac Digest V14 #265
Mac / Windows for Workgroups
My Info-Mac to HTML 1.1.0 doesn't work!
Sharing Printer on an Ethernet Network
Stereo on my mac? not really
Truncated sound on startup
The Info-Mac Network operates by the volunteer efforts of:
Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan
The Info-Mac Archive is available at 50 public and private sites around
the world. For the site list, request it by mail (address below), or try:
Also accessible by ftp. Help files and indexes are also in info-mac/help/.
Administrative queries & info:
Articles for digest publication:
Files for inclusion:
To submit a file greater than 800K, or to avoid submitting by (and
segmenting for) email, send email describing the file to
and upload it to:
-- username/password macgifts/macgifts at info-mac.org
As with emailed submissions, non-text files must be binhexed.
See our new WWW site: , where you can find
all of this info and more!
The Info-Mac digest is sponsored in part by StarNine Technologies, Inc., a
wholly-owned subsidiary of the Quarterdeck corporation. StarNine develops
Internet server software for the Macintosh, including World Wide Web and e-mail
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:25:46 -0700
From: Scott Bevan Ford
Subject: ?
Wednesday, November 20, 1996
6:25 PM
Hello: Can you guide me to a demo copy of "Conflict Catcher", on the
WWW?
Thanks very much.
Scott Forde
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:14:56 GMT
From: [email protected] (Wiley Sanders)
Subject: [A] File Sharing - How do I NOT share removable media.
The valuable prize (4 256K Mac Plus SIMMS) goes to Benjamin Turner, who
answered:
> ... It sounds like the user 'wms' (which is the 'owner' user)
> in the Users & Groups Control panel probably has the "Allow user to see
> entire disk" option checked, which means that when that user logs in,
> and since they are the owner of the computer, they can see the entire
> computer -- all currently mounted local disks.
This "magic box" is enabled by default. Unchecking it allows only part
of the disk to be shared, as I desire. When the entire disk is shared,
any removable media inserted (Syquests and CDROMs) get shared too. The
open files at the "desktop" (what I would call "root") level of each
disk royally confuse DiskFit, and "Erase Disk" does not work, and there
are other strange side effects (endless "insert the disk loops,
e.g.)
-w
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:26:41 -0800
From: "David L. Ellis"
Subject: [Q] Funny ASCII mistakes
Hi,
I often get some very strange ASCII mistakes that are quite consistent in
my info-mac digests. For example, a uppercase F will show up as =46 rather
than F. and so on. In these messages, every F will be "=46" all throughout
the message, not just once. Why is this?
David L. Ellis
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:34:52 -0500
From: [email protected] (Graeme Forbes)
Subject: aaron and scroll arrows
Does anyone know if there's a way of adding bidirectional scroll arrows to
the scroll bars of windows, if you're using a recent version of Aaron?
There was something called Aaron Aesthetics which would do this but it
doesn't seem to work on newer versions of Aaron. Similarly for Scroll2 and
Doublescroll. Bidirectional scroll arrows are *very* helpful if you have a
large screen - I can't imagine why they're not a staple of the interface.
Graeme Forbes
------------------------------
Date: 21 Nov 96 16:01:14 +0200
From: Elliot Bennett
Subject: American Heritage Dictionary: other probs..
Subject American Heritage Dictionary: other probs.. 20.11.=
96
16:43
Tom Martin mentioned some short falls in the American Heritage Talking =
Dictionary (AHTD) in IM #262 and I just wanted to add a couple comments (=
in case anyone's interested):
1) Each time you start AHTD and don't have the accompanying CD in your CD-=
ROM drive you ALWAYS get the message "Multimedia features of AHTD will not =
be available because the CD is not in the CD-ROM drive..." Now, I happen =
to prefer the speed of the hard disk (and use my CD-ROM for other things =
and don't always want to tie it up for the occasional picture or =
pronunciation). Thus I KNOW that it's not installed and I will not have =
these features- it would be nice if they gave you an option of turning =
this very annoying dialog off...
2) In the last version, you could start typing letters into the lookup =
field and the browse window would automatically jump to the word nearest =
what you've already typed in. Why they removed this HIGHLY useful feature =
is completely beyond me... (Because there are so many words in the =
dictionary attempting to scroll to anywhere near the word you're looking =
for makes using the Browse window virtually useless.)
I haven't had the problems Tom mentioned, but then I'm running on a Q630 (=
not PPC). That said, the American Heritage (paper version at least) is by =
far the best dictionary around (IMHO
- it's just too bad they've a) =missed some VERY critical features in the s/w and b) have seriously =
lacking support.
If anyone knows of a current e-mail address for their tech support I'd =
love to forward these comments...
Thanks for your patience...
Elliot Bennett
Cologne, Germany
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 01:41:29 +1100
From: Pikuan Susanto (USSS)
Subject: CGI
How do i make guest book?
Does FORM need CGI script? If yes, how can i do it?
What's the best webpage authoring tool, commercial and shareware?
comments are welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Pikuan
http://www.dezzanet.net.au/~pikuans
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:26:20 -0500
From: Richard Friedman
Subject: Communication problems with LWIINT
My computer no longer recognizes my LWIINT. I know the problem is not
with my LCII because it can communicate with my HP DeskJet. I have an HP
LaserJet II, which looks virtually identical except the port is a
parallel (or is it serial). I would use that but the rollers are bad.
The question is can I use the comm board from the HP to run the LW? If
not, any ideas if it's worth repairing the comm board on the LWII?
Rich
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 20:19:4 GMT
From: [email protected]
Subject: Dear Sir,
my name's Fabrizio Ferrari, I'm italian and i need to found a free chess
program for Macintosh (my computer is a Performa 630) on INTERNET. Can you
help me?
Thanks in advance.
Fabrizio Ferrari
E-MAIL: [email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:52:42 +0100
From: [email protected] (Paolo Bartoli)
Subject: error 11 again
It happens that, trying to open an application (like FormZ or else) I get
an "system error 11". What does it means, and overall, can I do something
to solve it?
Thanx
** Paolo Bartoli email: [email protected] **
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:36:00 +0000
From: Marcel Aussendorf
Subject: Eudora email to Filemaker?
Hi all mac-folks,
Some weeks ago I started to use Claris Emailer as my primary email-tool,
thereby replacing my old, trusty Eudora Lite. I really like it, despite
some rather frustrating drawbacks:
- the filing system: one message per file does tremendously increase the
disk-space needed
- booming ram-requirements: 1,5 mb to 0,5 mb for Eudora.
First question:
Some people discussed the use of Filemaker Pro in conjunction with
Emailer to send bulk-mailings. I wonder if FM Pro could also be used as a
mail archiving system for Emailer. I really like to store my mail in a
FM-database. Are there any thoughts or perhaps utilities developped for
this?
Second question:
I need to convert the Eudora-email boxes to a tab-delimited text format
that can be imported to FM. I found that just using the 'Save As' command
in Eudora won't do this job, because some message-information is set
aside. Is there an utility to do this job?
TIA
---------------------------------
Marcel K.M. Aussendorf
[email protected]
[email protected]
Katholieke Universiteit Nijmegen
Nijmegen, The Netherlands
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:02:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Martin Forrester
Subject: IM digests coming as attachments?
Hi folks,
Ever since I upgraded from Eudora Light 1.5.x to Eudora Light 3.0(beta6) my
IM digests have been appearing as attachments, which when double-clicked
open as Eudora mailboxes, with each posting showing up as a separate
message! That would be OK but I really prefer to use Easy View, and it
just doesn't like 'em that way. I guess I could select all those
individual messages as a group and do a "Save as.." but that's a pain.
They used to just appear in the body of the message. Now the message just
has the abstract/TOC type information, and the rest is in the attachment.
Any idea why this is happening?
----------------
Martin Forrester
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:44:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Sang-il Park
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #265
Dear Info-macer,
What I wanna have full control of 9500 in my lab from my Mac at my home.
My Mac is with modem, but Mac 9500 is on the ethernet.
Usually I called my school network using my modem, then type telnet command.
Or I can use PPP connection.
But all I've done is from Mac to Workstation, like SUN, or HP machines.
I have no experience between Mac to Mac, one has modem in my home
the other is on Ethernet in my school.
Which software I have to buy ?
Apple remote Access ? or Timbuktu ?
TIA,
[email protected] 336498 GA Tech Station
http://www.ece.gatech.edu/users/spark Atlanta, GA 30332-1685
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:53:01 -0700
From: [email protected] (Stephen Grady)
Subject: Mac / Windows for Workgroups
>I am a Mac user in a company that has only IBM compatible PC's and MF and
>VAX and Sun. The PC's share data using a Windows for Workgroup network and
>they also share an HP printer on that same network. (Ethernet)
>Much in the same way as my Apple Fileshare ans Printershare at home.
>
>Once in a while I connect using serial transfers, however I would love to buy
>an Ethernet card for my Mac to hook in. However this only makes sense
>if I have a way of using file and/or printer sharing. Does ANYBODY have
>an idea, if connecting to a WfW network is possible ? How? What Product?
>I am aware of alternatives like a TCP/IP stack on the PC etc.
>
>Thanks for your help and info
>
>Jan Toonen
>Mac User in an alien environment
Miramar's Personal MacLAN. Windows application (3.11 or 95) that installs
an Appleshare stack on a single PC (I suggest the server).
Downside:
1. Non-Mac interface (but it is going on a Windows machine--what do you
expect).
2. You end up with a lot of files that start with # on the PC. Those are
the resource forks of Mac files transferred to the PC.
3. PC files will not open with double clicking (unless you have your system
recognizing PC file extensions i.e., .xls is an Excel file, and of course,
extensions are used correctly).
4. One PC only to a theoritical maximum of 5 Macs (most people I hear from
are a single Mac in a multi PC world).
5. Only will share Postscript printers on the PC network.
Upside:
1. Super easy to use on either platform once installed. Uses the FInder
and its windows on the Mac, File Manager on the PC. Also works from within
applications.
2. Great for applications that exist on both platforms that share document
formats, i.e, Microsoft Word and Excel. I work on my Mac. Copy to the PC,
can then edit it, and copy back to the Mac and open it and work on it some
more.
3. Inexpensive. Check your software supplier. I picked it up for CAN$199.
4. Works on any PC network, assuming the machines have the capability
(Localtalk, ethernet, etc.).
To sum up, I find it an excellent product and recommend that people check
it out whenever this question is asked.
I have nothing to do with Miramar, other than being a satisfied customer.
Stephen Grady
[email protected]
[email protected]
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:17:56 +0100
From: [email protected] (Claudio Fogliato)
Subject: My Info-Mac to HTML 1.1.0 doesn't work!
Hi,
I'm experiencing problems with the converer for Info-Mac digests. When I
try to convert a file (text from Eudora with guess paragraph off)
application 'unexpectedly quit' for an error type 12. Is that a know bug of
this version or maybe a problem of mine?
regards,
Claudio
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:16:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Ethan Benatan
Subject: Sharing Printer on an Ethernet Network
>>> "RW" == Rick D Wintheiser wrote:
RW> I will be implementing a network of PowerPC's and several
RW> localtalk printers.... I'd
RW> like to set it up with minimum pain and maximum speed. Any
RW> ideas? I've heard about the LocalTalk Bridge, is this a
RW> solution? Will I still need to dedicate a computer to this? Is
RW> there some kind of FAQ? Will any hub work? (wow didn't think I
RW> had all these questions!)
I'm not wildly experienced at this, but I am about 2 jumps ahead if
where you are right now
so here goes.LaserWriter Bridge is a control panel that comes free from Apple that
allows a single Mac to act as a bridge between an EtherTalk network
and one or more printers on a LocalTalk network. It does not require
a dedicated computer, but obviously if the computer on which it is
running is busy, it will be slow. I have two trouble-free
installations and one trouble-prone installation at the moment, all in
the same building. One drawback is that when one computer on a
LocalTalk network is running LaserWriter Bridge, none of the other
computers on that LocalTalk network can use AppleShare over
LocalTalk. See the docs for details.
LocalTalk bridge is along the same lines, but commercial from Apple;
it acts as a two-way bridge so that a variety of devices on the
LocalTalk segment can communicate with the EtherTalk side. If you
only care about printers, you don't need it. Cost around $100, I
think.
I have just ordered (but not yet received) a hardware bridge from
Farallon; they have two flavors, one for 1 printer and one for a
LocalTalk network of up to 7 or 8 devices. The price difference is
only $50 or so, they are both in the $200-$300 range. Ask me in a
couple of weeks and I'll let you know how it turns out... I suspect
that it will be faster and more reliable.
More info: the Apple SW updates web site has a disk image with
LaserWriter bridge plus an updater for LocalTalk bridge. I don't have
the URL to hand, but I think it is under Networking. There's info on
the LocalTalk bridge at
Farallon are wonderful folks who can be found at
.
Hope this helps-
Ethan
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Ethan Benatan [email protected] http://www.pitt.edu/~ethan
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:19:46 -0400
From: [email protected] (Alain Chabot)
Subject: Stereo on my mac? not really
Hi,
I recently decided to buy a pair of external speakers for my Power Mac 8100
AV. As soon as I got them out of the box, I connected them to the headphone
port on the foot of my monitor, popped a CD in the CD drive and got sound
only from the right channel. Weird. So I fumbled a bit with the plug and
discovered that I can get stereo sound from the thing if I pull the plug
partly out of the port. This reminded me I had had the same problem with my
Walkman headphones a while back. So, decided to solve the problem by
pluging my speakers directly into the sound jack at the back of my mac.
Guess what: I had the same problem there.
I called a friend who works for an Apple dealer and he told me the Apple
jacks are not standard. It appears that a while ago there was _no_ de facto
standard and that Apple just adopted a size for its machines. Well, that
may have been true 10 years ago (hard to believe considering Walkmans have
been around since almost forever and their jack _are_ standard across
companies), but I bought this Mac as a Quadra 800 about 5 years ago and
upgraded it to a Power Mac last Fall. The idea that one year ago Apple was
selling logic boards that have non-standard sound jacks boggles the mind.
It appears there is some adaptor that can solve this very vexing problem.
Anybody has a clue?
Thanks
Alain Chabot
Universite Sainte Anne
Church Point, Nova Scotia
Canada
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:58:54 -0800
From: [email protected] (Jon Froines)
Subject: Truncated sound on startup
> At 8:12 PM +0000 11/18/96, Steve Smith wrote:
> >I have a Performa 630/350MB/CD/TV which I recently upgraded to
> >20MB by changing the old 8MB SIMM for a 16MB SIMM.
> >
> >Ever since I did this I have noticed that (most of the time) the
> >startup sound is either truncated (i.e. it doesn't last as long as it
> >used to) or it sounds muffled.
My PM 7500 unfortunately does this all the time. When it does this, it
means I have NO sound in the finder or any application, even though
everything else seems to works fine. If I restart, it usually goes away.
This is probably the most annoying problem I've ever had with this PM 7500.
Do you have ok sound once you've started up? If so, that's way weird. If
not, then it's probably some nasty system problem like I seem to have.
- JonYo ([email protected])
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