Info-Mac Digest V14 #221
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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 27 Sep 96 Volume 14 : Issue 221
Today's Topics:
[*] Aaron 1.5.1
[*] Anthem 1.01
[*] BibleBrowser - browse, read, and search the Holy Bible
[*] FoodFight!
[*] Glidel France 3.1
[*] Glidel U.S. 3.1
[*] Market Minder 1.0
[*] Power Windows 1.2.1
[*] SmoothType 1.1
[*] Super Othello 1.6
[*] The ClarisWorks Font Patch
[*] The Puppy Patch v2.0
(A) Performa 636 Battery
(C) PB5300c + 7.5.5 = Problems (4 msgs)
[A] Claris works compatibility
Idea for a program (Q)
Info-Mac Digest V14 #220
Libel (2 msgs)
Libel (C)
Mac zip disk
Netscape Problems
PlainTalk Mailing List
Problem: Mystery Megs
random sound player;random desktop pattern at startup
Replies to Quadra 650 and System Problems
USRobotics Sportster + FreePPP 2.5v2 (C) (2 msgs)
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:45 -0500
From: (Gregory D. Landweber)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Aaron 1.5.1
Aaron 1.5.1 (September 9, 1996) by Greg Landweber and Edward Voas (c) 1996
Greg Landweber and Amargosa Software, Inc.
>From the authors of Greg's Buttons, Greg's Browser, and DoubleScroll.
Why wait for eight? Your Mac can have the Mac OS 8 user experience today!
Just drop Aaron into your Extensions folder, and your Mac will look just
like the Mac OS 8 Default Theme (Aaron is based on Apple's official Mac OS
8 interface specs). Aaron gives you 3D Mac OS 8-style windows, scroll bars,
buttons, folder icons, menus, fonts, pop-ups, progress boxes, Finder window
headers, and more. Aaron is a fat binary for Macs and PowerMacs.
Version 1.5.1 fixes a few minor problems.
-- Greg Landweber
[email protected]
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/aaron-151.hqx; 201K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:49 -0500
From: (Henry Harris)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Anthem 1.01
Anthem is a full-featured sequencer/notation/librarian Shareware package
for the Macintosh that provides full support for OMS 2.2, the OMS Name
Manager, QuickTime Musical Instruments and the MIDI Manager. The Sonata(tm)
font from Adobe is required. One millisecond sequencer resolution and 1024
ppqn score resolution, chord editor, fader documents, built-in universal
patch librarian to mention a few, are features that both the beginner and
the pro can appreciate. Package includes manual and examples. Single site
license is $60. See website at http://www.loop.com/~hharris/
[Archived as /info-mac/gst/midi/anthem-101.hqx; 1566K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:52 -0500
From: (HolyMac Software)[email protected]
Subject: [*] BibleBrowser - browse, read, and search the Holy Bible
BibleBrowser is a friendly program for browsing, reading, and searching the
Holy Bible. It offers many features that make it useful while retaining a
simplicity that makes it easy to use.
It been tested on machines from the latest PowerMac to the earliest
MacPlus, system 7.5.x down through 6.0.7.
If you have a Mac and an interest in the Bible it's made just for you! If
you have any problems please let me know by email to .
BibleBrowser may be freely copied. I hope you enjoy it!
[Archived as /info-mac/app/bible-browser.hqx; 4858K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:50 -0500
From: (Harley Bradley)[email protected]
Subject: [*] FoodFight!
MagicHat has done it AGAIN! This game is fun and absolutely hilarious.
Blast the Principal with a pie in the face. Hit the Cheerleader with a
tomato. Or you can splat the cafeteria lady with a helping of those
tasteless mashed potatoes she insists on plopping onto your tray. Throw
some jello at the old Math teacher Mrs. Bombottom. Lots of characters, lots
of funny sounds, LOTS OF FUN !!!
With exception to cantpeek and cantabort (to preserve the plotCicon XCMD)
this stack is totally UN-protected and wide open for the curious and/or
beginner Hypercard programmer.
Enjoy it. Pass it around. Guaranteed to make you LOL !!!!
[Archived as /info-mac/game/food-fight.hqx; 513K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:46 -0500
From: (Gilles Berkovitch)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Glidel France 3.1
Glidel est une extension qui sert, a partir de la selection du Finder, a :
- declencher les actions correspondants aux articles du menu Fichier,
- ouvrir des documents par des applications ne les ayant pas crees,
- mouvoir ou copier la selection,
- creer des alias de la selection.
Nouveautes de la version 3.1 :
- Meilleure detection du glissement de la selection du Finder,
- N'est plus flouee par une icone effacee en presentation par icone,
- Compatible avec Desktop PrintMonitor 2.0,
- Meilleure compatibilite avec Super Boomerang,
- Corrige une erreur en presence de QuickDraw GX.
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/glidel-31-fr.hqx; 37K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:46 -0500
From: (Gilles Berkovitch)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Glidel U.S. 3.1
Glidel is a system extension that extends the Finder's drag-and-drop
abilities within System 7. You can select any icon currently visible,
either on your Desktop or in an open folder, and drag it to:
* The Open, Print, Get Info, Sharing..., Duplicate, Make Alias, Put Away
options (and Reveal Original starting with system 7.5) on the File menu;
* Any application or folder in the Apple menu, including those accessible
via a third-party hierarchical menu utility such as BeHierarchic, NowMenus,
HAM, or OtherMenus;
* Any currently running application, via the Application menu on the
right-hand side of the menu bar.
New in version 3.1:
- Better detection of the Finder selection drag start,
- No more faked by an icon erased while view is by icon,
- Compatible with Desktop PrintMonitor 2.0,
- Better compatibility with Super Boomerang,
- Bug fix when QuickDraw GX is installed.
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/glidel-31.hqx; 38K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:53 -0500
From: (Gerry Rodrigues)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Market Minder 1.0
Market Minder is a stock market timing tool. It is a small program that
considers a number of economic and market indicators to determine whether
one should be investing in the stock market at any given moment. Market
Minder provides buy or sell recommendations based on current data on the
prime rate, discount rate, installment debt and the weekly close of the
Value Line Composite index. This calculation is based on a model outlined
by Martin Zweig in his book "Winning on Wall Street". Market Minder is
e-mailware.
System Requirements:
Market Minder requires 300 Kb of free RAM and should work on all Macs
running system 6.0 and up.
For more information, please read the Read Me file enclosed.
Gerry Rodrigues
[email protected]
[Archived as /info-mac/app/market-minder.hqx; 147K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:47 -0500
From: (Gregory D. Landweber)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Power Windows 1.2.1
Power Windows 1.2.1 (September 9, 1996) by Gregory D. Landweber (c) 1996 by
Gregory D. Landweber, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED By the coauthor of Aaron and
author of Greg's Buttons and Greg's Browser.
Power windows is a tiny extension that lets you drag the entire contents of
windows instead of a dotted outline. It also includes a "Translucent Power
Windows" variant that drags a partially transparent window. Unlike other
similar extensions, Power Windows uses backing store to preserve the
contents of the screen and avoid the "giant eraser" effect. Shareware $5.
Version 1.2.1 fixes conflicts with MiniCAD, Microsoft Excel, and Microsoft
Exchange.
-- Greg Landweber
[email protected]
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/power-windows-121.hqx; 77K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:48 -0500
From: (Gregory D. Landweber)[email protected]
Subject: [*] SmoothType 1.1
SmoothType 1.1 (September 9, 1996) by Gregory D. Landweber (c) 1995-1996 by
Gregory D. Landweber, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED By the coauthor of Aaron and
author of Greg's Buttons and Greg's Browser.
SmoothType is a tiny extension that makes your screen look more like the
printed page. Using a technique called anti-aliasing, SmoothType blurs the
jagged edges of bitmap fonts with shades of gray, effectively doubling your
screen resolution. SmoothType requires a fast machine, a high resolution
monitor, and TrueType or PostScript (with ATM) fonts. Shareware Fee: $5.
SmoothType 1.1 fixes problems with ClarisWorks, Eudora Pro, CyberDog, Code
Warrior, and others. It now anti-aliases PostScript fonts (with ATM).
-- Greg Landweber
[email protected]
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/smooth-type-11.hqx; 75K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:51 -0500
From: (Haakon Stodle)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Super Othello 1.6
Super Othello 1.6 is a HyperCard version of othello (also known as
reversi). It alows you to play against your Mac, a friend or just watch the
Mac as it plays against itself. You can choose between seven different
levels of difficulty when playing against the Mac, and you can play as
either black or white.
Super Othello also includes a tutorial which explains some of the basic
rules if you are unfamiliar with othello.
New in this version is:
- Improved super intelligence
- Ability to save and load games
- Two-pass chip checking
- Ability to log games for later reviewal - You can now play as either
black or white
Super Othello requires any Mac with HyperCard 2.0 or later, though running
Super Othello on an LC will be rather slow, as the Mac will use 30-60
seconds figuring out each move.
------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel
Stodle [email protected]
Fogd Dreyersgt. 21 Tel. +47 77 68 63 76 N-9008 Tromso
NORWAY
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[Archived as /info-mac/game/brd/super-othello-16.hqx; 78K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:43 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: [*] The ClarisWorks Font Patch
Please find attached The ClarisWorks Font Patch. This patch does one thing:
it changes the default font in ClarisWorks from Helvetica to Times. Nothing
more, nothing less. It saves you the trouble of manually changing those
fonts in *every* document that you create.
Enjoy!
........................................... Wade Heninger
[email protected]
http://www.earthlink.net/~heninger/wade.html
...........................................
[Archived as /info-mac/text/cw-font-patch.hqx; 44K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:52 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: [*] The Puppy Patch v2.0
Here is the second revision of The Puppy Patch (formerly called TCDAP). It
works with the new 1.1 GM version of Cyberdog that was just released.
If you are not familiar with The Puppy Patch, it replaces the running dog
animation with an updated Sybie animation that is more aesthetic. Enjoy
[Archived as /info-mac/comm/the-puppy-patch-20.hqx; 48K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:48:09 -1000
From: Jerry Levinson
Subject: (A) Performa 636 Battery
I asked if I could replace the dead battery in my Performa 636 (4.5v
alkaline block) with 3 AA alkalines.
To make a long story short, yes. I tried it and it works. Details
available to those interested, just email me. If I get a lot of requests,
I'll post instructions, but it's not difficult, just what you'd expect.
Jerry
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:57:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John P. Speno"
Subject: (C) PB5300c + 7.5.5 = Problems
"Craig T. Martin" writes:
>Anyone have a better fix? I thought that one could use LaserWriter 8
>without the Desktop PrintMonitor, but that doesn't seem to work for me.
I upped the RAM requirement of the Desktop Printer and removed the Motorola
Math Library extension (LibMotoSh). That did it for me. I think it was the
later, not the former that really made it work.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:39:33 -0400
From: "Craig T. Martin"
Subject: (C) PB5300c + 7.5.5 = Problems
Regarding my recent posting:
>>Today's Problem: After installation of 7.5.5, I am unable to print in the
>>background with the PB5300c.
>
>I too upgraded from 7.5.3 to 7.5.5 with LaserWriter 8.4 already installed,
>on a
>PB520 w/ Apple PPC upgrade (which is supposed to be just like a PB5300).
>>Exactly the same symptoms! ...
My thanks to:
John P. Speno
Louis Chan
Peter H. Lipman
who all came up with the correct solution:
increase the memory allocated to "Desktop Printer Monitor"
Peter pointed me to Ric Ford's "invaluable" Macintouch Home Page.
http://www.macintouch.com/
The cure is found at the end of the Sep 26th entry. This is one of those
applications which needs slightly more memory under 7.5.5.
My thanks also to my Apple Sales Rep, Don Francolino, who stopped by my
office today to see if he could help (the solution was already in hand, but
the effort is appreciated).
Craig Martin
University of Massachusetts
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 22:58:57 -0500
From: Paul Kleeberg
Subject: (C) PB5300c + 7.5.5 = Problems
At 2:39 PM -0500 9/26/96, Craig T. Martin wrote:
>Regarding my recent posting:
>
>>>Today's Problem: After installation of 7.5.5, I am unable to print in the
>>>background with the PB5300c. [Lost keystrokes etc.]
>>
>>I too upgraded from 7.5.3 to 7.5.5 with LaserWriter 8.4 already installed,
>>on a
>>PB520 w/ Apple PPC upgrade (which is supposed to be just like a PB5300).
>>>Exactly the same symptoms! ...
>
> increase the memory allocated to "Desktop Printer Monitor"
Thank you very much! I have reloaded 7.5.5 and that appears to have solved
the problem. Background printing works and keystrokes are not lost.
Paul Kleeberg
[email protected]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:33:21 -0700
From: [email protected] (Chris Schram)
Subject: (C) PB5300c + 7.5.5 = Problems
On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, "Craig T. Martin" wrote:
>Further analysis found that when a print job was queued (even from a
>previous startup), the background application "Desktop PrintMonitor" was
>continuously being launched and closing (no indication in the menu, but you
>could watch its Finder icon alternating greying and clearing up). This
>explains the constant disk activity and probably explains the keystroke
>buffer losses. Removing these two files and restarting removes all
>problems. I tried using LaserWriter 8.3.4 (with the Desktop Printer
>Extension and Monitor), but that was no better. I am now running with 7.5.5
>and LaserWriter 7.2 (old print monitor, no desktop anything). It works fine
>and I don't really miss the desktop printer icons, but 8.4 does print
>faster. I repeat - with this "fix" my PB520/PPC runs well with 7.5.5 - no
>other problems.
>
>Anyone have a better fix? I thought that one could use LaserWriter 8
>without the Desktop PrintMonitor, but that doesn't seem to work for me.
Did you try bumping up the Desktop PrintMonitor's memory allocation?
That brought my Color StyleWriter Pro back to life. It just may work
for you.
Chris Schram -- [email protected] -- http://www.coos.or.us/~schram
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:05:52 -0400
From: Jerry Wolf
Subject: [A] Claris works compatibility
>From what I recall when I upgraded to 4.0, it IS impossible to read
4.0 files with ClarisWorks 3.0. However Claris did release an
application that converts 4.0 files to 3.0 format. You can get it
from ftp://users.aol.com/macfaq/claris/cwconverter.hqx.
You may also be interested in a useful ClarisWorks FAQ at
http://users.aol.com/macfaq/clarisworks-faq.html.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:24:59 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: Idea for a program (Q)
Dear Digest readers,
Has anybody made a non-Applescript program that makes Netscape empty its
disk cache by the press of a button or an added menu item. I have
QuickKeys 3.5 and Netscape 3.0 if that makes any difference. I hate
having to always go to the Options Network Preferences when I want to
remove the cache files.
P.S. What INITs are necessary in System 7.5.5 to get AppleScript to work
correctly on a PowerMac 7200/75?
Thank you.
Sincerely,
[email protected]
-------
Check out my web page at http://www.bayserve.net/~abrody
Suggestions appreciated.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:21:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sterling Augustine
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #220
Axel Steininger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Modern Memory Manager (in the Memory CDEV) is responsible for 32bit
Ram addressing (I suppose that's what you meant?) Turn it off and you
have 16bit again. Nice little feature: If you turn it off your Mac won't
be able to access more than 16Mb of Ram
>>>>>>>>>>
[Uhhhh... I'm not an expert in this, however, two things. First, I do not
think the Mac was *ever* 16 bit. That is Windows your are thinking of. The
Mac was 24 bit (like my SE/30). I'm also pretty sure that the modern memory
manager won't change the status -- it is just a different/better implementation
of the Mac's memory manager.
Subject: Libel
As an info-mac subscriber and contributor, please let me reply to your
recent post:
>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 21:04:42 -0400
>From: [email protected]
>Subject: Libel
>
>My name is Carl Huben, and I am writing you to express my dismay at your
>irresponsible editorial practices.
>From my understanding, the moderators of the info-mac digest really don't
edit stuff, Carl. The messages for and replies to queries for help are
merely an additional service of being informed of what new software has
been added to the info-mac archive.
>
>In a previous issue of the info-mac digest, you printed Hannes Hofer's
>ludicrous and unsubstantiated claim that my Macintosh shareware program,
>Digital Equalizer 2.0, permanently damaged his computer. Anyone with a
solid
>understanding of Macintosh computers knows that software can absolutely not
>cause the problem he describes.
This list is not entirely devoted to those who have a solid understanding
of Macintosh computers. There are many of us on this list who use Macs at
home, at school, or in the work place and as such are casual users who
have no real understanding of fhte underlying programming which makes our
Macs work. And software can cause permanent damage to someone's machine
if it is used incorrectly, hacked irresponsibily, or written very poorly
(i.e. corrupt a hard drive or damage a software disk driver). Hannes
Hofer may not be a programmer, but merely a concerned Mac user who notice
something going awry after using your program. Perhaps this is your
program's fault, perhaps not. Either way, Hofer's request for info from
you were brushed off, so he turned to the Internet community. Without
knowing the full extent of the exchange between you and Mr. Hofer, I
really can not render an opinion on this front except to say that your
reply to him was not to his satisfaction.
However, the way to combat any responsibility for any possible damage
that may or may nor occur is to disclaim any implied warranty in your
Read Me file. I trust that you did this, and are therefore covered from
any possible real monetary assessment Mr. Hofer might try hold against
you.
>It was irresponsible of you to publish this
>letter, because it contains a false claim which has hurt my shareware
>business, and damaged my reputation as a programmer. It is clearly
libelous.
> Worse still, you did not bother to contact me before (or after) printing
>it.
The info-mac digest is under no obligation to contact you in regards to
questions or queries about your software; the digest is merely a forum
for the open exchange of ideas. I seriously doubt that one letter from
some guy is really going to damage your reputation as a programmer, and
let's face it, not many people profit from the shareware trade. Am I
right on this, the rest of you shareware authors? A study a few years ago
is there any body who can back me up on this, my memory is fuzzy) found
that maybe 1 in 100 folks pays a shareware fee for shareware they use, so
I seriously doubt you are making serious money programming shareware.
And if they wanted to, the moderators could yank your software from the
archive, which I would do if you continue making claims threating a
lawsuit. Info-mac is a volunteer effort, and they are under no obligation
to post every single piece of software which is forwarded to them. They
frequently purge the archive of outdated software or mal-functional,
unstable programs. So be careful what you threaten, because if it isn't
on info-mac, you aren't going to get a wide distribution for your
shareware. Things don't go travel far from AOL and CompuServe. It takes
info-mac and its mirrors around the world to really distribute Mac
shareware and freeware.
>Then, in a subsequent issue, you allowed a vituperative letter from Al
Bloom,
>in which he attacked the Digital Equalizer program, as well as me
personally.
> I am disgusted that you allowed this childish rant in your digest; it's
>completely inappropriate. You didn't contact me for a response to Bloom's
>letter, either.
Ooh! Big word, "vituperative"! Again, the digest moderators are under no
obligationto contact you. This isn't "Time" magazine, pal, it's a query
and reply format, folks discussing their experiences with the Mac with
the hope of imparting knowledge to others. Think of it as a caffee
klatsch for Mac addicts. If other folks think they can help Mr. Hofer
out, so be it. Mr. Bloom has been right on target with other fixes and
replies to help. More power to you, Bloom!
>After seeing Mr. Bloom's letter, I immediately composed a response which
>politely and reasonably addressed the claims made by Hofer and Bloom. I
>emailed it to you (at this address) on September 18th. In another enormous
>lapse of editorial responsibility, you chose not to print it.
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the way mailing lists and digests works.
Read the FAQ, buddy! Stuff is posted in the order it comes in to the
listproc. It is then added to the digest until a certian line limit is
hit and when an other issue of the digest is ready to be sent, it is sent
to the subscribers of the list. The moderators just hang around to make
sure no nasty flame wars get started and to make sure that the material
being posted pertains to the list. Other than that, no editorial controls
are exercised. Obviously, your letter has yet to be posted when you sent
this eMail. Or perhaps it got lost. That happens too. I uploaded 8
separate issues of the ezine I publish to the macgifts site six weeks ago
and they have never shown up in the archives, and I have never received a
respone to my query in regards to this situation. This sometimes happens.
The info-mac moderators are students and faculty members at educational
institutions and do the upkeep to the info-mac site and digests in their
spare time. Don't expect everything you send in to be replied to by
somebody right away. Take a chill pill, dude!
>
>As I said at the top of the letter, I am asking you for the last time to
>print the response I sent to you on the 18th of September. If you need
>another copy, write to me at this email address and I will provide one.
>
>If you do not allow me space in the digest to respond to the libelous
attacks
>you've printed, I will contact my corporation's attorney to discuss my
>options for legal action against the digest.
No can do, Carl. You'd have to sue all the 30,000 some-odd members of the
mailing list who read and respond to posts and queries. And the
moderators are under no legal obligation to you to print your reply,
either. If you have a problem with Mr. Bloom's or Mr. Hofer's comments
and complaints, take it up with them. Don't threaten the hand that feeds
you, because your shareware won't go anywhere if it is yanked from the
info-mac archives.
This said, I do empathize with your position. As the editor and publisher
of POETRY INK, an ezine distributed via eMail, I must toe the line every
issue to make sure things are within legal bounds. That is the difference
between an electronic digest and an electronic magazine; the editors are
responsible for the content of a ezine but not for a digest.
Putting myself in your place, it is distressing to see the product of
your labor slammed by folks. But it comes with the territory when you
relase things to the Internet, and despite the your best efforts to test
your software, it can still conflict with other third-party software.
That is the risk folks take with any piece of software when they download
it and use it on their system. Get over it, Mr. Huben. This is the nature
of the shareware market.
And Gordon had no need to aplogize. He should have just yanked Digital
Equalizer 2.0 from the archive without any explanation. He has the right
to do so, just as you have the right to submit it for consideration for
the archive.
In fact, I propose that the readers of the digest vote on whether
so-called "used fruit" software which has generated an abundance of
complaints be removed from the archives; thus, the moderators are recused
of any legal action.
Regards,
Matthew W. Schmeer
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:47:40 +0000
From: Peter McDermott
Subject: Libel
In article ,
Christopher Li wrote:
>> Then, in a subsequent issue, you allowed a vituperative letter from Al
Bloom,
>> in which he attacked the Digital Equalizer program, as well as me
>personally.
>
>
>I think that it is unfortunate that the two individuals above chose to
>present their case in the tone and manner that they did. Info-mac is an
>extremely valuable forum for discussing Macintosh news and problems,
>getting advice and just gathering information in general. If they had a
>problem with a particular piece of software (regardless as to whether or
>not they had a basis for a complaint) it would have been far more
>constructive if they had presented their case calmly and rationally, which
>would have given the author a fair chance to respond to their complaints in
>a public forum.
One man's meat is another man's poison. Some people lean towards
a dry, strictly factual style. Other people prefer a more.. rhetorical
style. Personally, I find Al Bloom's posts - including the one you
refer to - both informative _and_ entertaining. You pays your money (or
you don't, in the case of Info-Mac) and you take your choice.
[Al isn't always right, but he almost always makes me laugh out loud.
I'm glad he reads this list! Especially when he starts out a mail
message with "xxx made me sound almost sane by writing..."
-Gordon]
Personally, I found the response by the software author to be
ill-tempered and a gross overreaction, and consequently would go
out of my way to _avoid_ using his software in the future. People
are entitled to their views, and while he has every right to
seek to correct them, I found his threat of libel to be totally
ridiculous, and inappropriate in this forum. The Info-Mac
moderators do a good job, unpaid, and their only censorship
function seems to be keeping the spam out to ensure that this
forum is eminently readable. If the author of the program used
the same sort of research to write his program as he did when
he threatened the Info-Mac moderators, then it's hardly surprising
it was described as a 'piece of used food'.
>Because a program crashes or has bugs certainly doesn't mean that it's
>useless - there is scarcely any software available today that will run on
>all systems and all configurations without some problems.
Completely true. However, one of the reasons I read Info-Mac is
to find out what doesn't work. People are perfectly entitled to
express their views about software or anything else. That's how
the net works. Learn to deal with it, or stick to printed media.
>Further, there is a difference in size here that should dictate the scale
>of your response. If you write some very strongly worded comments about
>the software produced by an EXTREMELY LARGE software company (no names
>please!) it's very unlikely to cause that company any damage, in fact it
>may take a strongly worded message to get a significant response from a
>large company. On the other hand, the same strongly worded comments
>addressed to a shareware developer are likely to be very damaging to the
>sales and reputation of that developer (who is usually an individual, and
>not a large corporation) when they are seen by the public without a
>balancing opinion.
Tough. That's the way the world works. Good products get praised.
Sad products get slated. If you don't want to get slated, produce a
better product. I know of no reason why shareware developers should
be exempt from the workings of the market.
>Since many of these people (like me) depend in part or
>in full on income derived from shareware to support themselves and their
>families it's easy to see how an ill-considered posting can cause serious
>damage to several people's lives.
Rubbish. Good products sell. Useless products don't. You can't blame
your critics if you've produced a useless product. Not only is it totally
illogical, it's also bad business practice. In fact, software authors
should be encouraging as _much_ critical feedback as they can get, so
they can fix their products and produce software the user actually
wants.
>As to criticism's of the author's spelling mistakes, why is that even
>included in the complaint at all? Firstly, I certainly don't see how that
>is relevant in any way to the functioning of a piece of software. Secondly,
It's indicative of the author's professionalism and the overall
quality of the product. Given your inability to see its relevance,
I'm not surprised you worry about people discussing _your_ products
in public.
>who really cares whether the author misspelled something or not if the
>meaning is conveyed correctly (plenty of people misspell things, that's why
>there's a market for spell-checkers, right?).
And given that there _are_ spell checkers (and even things printed on
paper called dictionaries) the only excuse an author can have for such
mistakes is a sloppy attitude to his product and a lack of professionalism
in his work. You may think that's acceptable in the products you turn
out. I don't think it's acceptable in the products that I want to buy.
[Well, now you've got me embarassed. I'm a horrid speller and I don't run
a spell cheker. And my mother is an english prof. Go figure. Hope no one
is really bothered by it...
-Gordon]
[On a more serious note. I like to see this discussed every now and then
because it reminds us all of what info-mac is and does. However, I would
like to keep it on an impersonal level. So, feel free to comment, but
perhaps we should stop singling out any particular person. After all, in
my tenure here at info-mac there have been a number of misunderstandings
of this nature... Heck, I think Al even yelled at me once... must be
doing something right.
-Gordon]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 96 21:36:48 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom"
Subject: Libel (C)
On Tue, 24 Sep, Carl Huben made me sound like a sane person by writing:
>My name is Carl Huben, and I am writing you to express my dismay at your
>irresponsible editorial practices.
>
>In a previous issue of the info-mac digest, you printed Hannes Hofer's
>ludicrous and unsubstantiated claim that my Macintosh shareware program,
>Digital Equalizer 2.0, permanently damaged his computer.
>
>Then, in a subsequent issue, you allowed a vituperative letter from Al Bloom,
>in which he attacked the Digital Equalizer program, as well as me personally.
>I am disgusted that you allowed this childish rant in your digest.
>
>If you do not allow me space in the digest to respond to the libelous attacks
>you've printed, I will contact my corporation's attorney to discuss my
>options for legal action against the digest.
Vituperative? Moi?
I didn't want to get back into this one, but I can't let Gordon take all
the heat.
I'm embarrassed by my note on the subject. It was a draft that got away
>From me. I meant to SAVE it and SENT it instead. One of these days I may
understand enough about computers to make them do what I want instead of
doing what I tell them. Macmod could not intercept it before it came out
in the digest. I said things about Hannes that would never have passed
a second draft. I was rude, crude, and unacceptable. I apologize, Hannes.
However, I wouldn't have changed a word of what I said about Digital
Equalizer.
Mr. Huben must develop a somewhat thicker skin if he is to lay out his
product before us as a commercial endeavor. I've been in the racket, too.
The most important thing I learned was that most often the customer is
not a liar. He or she experienced the problem described. And describing
the problem was not an attack on my manhood or livelihood. I learned to
encourage problem reports. It makes for a better product. I don't pretend
to perfection. I just strive for it.
I suggest that Mr. Huben spend less time being mad and less time making
mostly meaningless threats of legal action. And more time improving his
product. I suggest the latter course is more profitable.
Al Bloom
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:32:37 +0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Mac zip disk
Iomega promises 100Mb per disk. But mac formatted zip disks are at an
average of 95Mb only, are we short changed? Curious about the answer if
anyone has it. Thank you
khoon
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:11:19 GMT
From: [email protected] (Melissa Maier)
Subject: Netscape Problems
>I have recently been having problems using ANY version of Netscape. I am
>experiencing frequent (several each day) complete system freezes.
Me, too. After realizing that at 8 megs RAM (RAM-Doubled to 16) on an LC
630 I don't have enough muscle to run Netscape 3.0, I reverted to 2.0.
Since then, I have experienced far more crashes than previously (and they
were by no means rare in the past). My hodgepodge of extensions is
different, but nothing has changed recently-- except the presence of both
2.0 and 3.0 on the hard disk. Could they be interfering with each other
somehow? (I'd like to hang on to the 3.0 just in case someday my RAM
situation changes.)
greetings-- melissa.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:45:34 -0500
From: Jesse Kaysen
Subject: PlainTalk Mailing List
On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, [email protected] (Thomas Kahn) asked us about
How can I make interactive scripts with PlainTalk and AppleScript?
other questions about Speech Recognition pop up from time to time
There's a mailing list for these kinds of questions: The disabled-talk list
is for plain-talk users/programmers (afraid that's pretty much the same
thing these days). Many, but not all, subscribers *really need* PlainTalk
because they can't use keyboards.
Subscription info and more details at
http://thelorax.res.cmu.edu/lists
where you'll find subscription info.
Jesse the K
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:22:43 -0400
From: E+C Behme
Subject: Problem: Mystery Megs
Greetings!
Until about 3 days ago, my LC630/20/260/7.5.5 indicated HD useage of
174Megs (yup, I need to run a clean ship)
Then, all of a sudden and with no special downloads, the figure
increased to 181Megs.
-- I counted the folder sizes from the get-info boxes = 174Megs
-- I ran First Aid and Dr. Norton - no HD problems
-- I optimzed the drive - still 181Megs
-- I went back to System 7.5.3 and reinstalled 7.5.5 still 181Megs
I'm totally stumped and a little worried.
Any further suggestions? Do I have to go back to 7.5.1 or (horror!) have
to reformat, or is there some other way to reclaim those weird 7Megs?
Cheers,
Eckhard Behme
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Nova Scotia - Open to the World: http://novasco.com/
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:53:03 +0100
From: [email protected] (Michael Webb)
Subject: random sound player;random desktop pattern at startup
Could you helpful, fellow-Macites help me with the following requests for
software that may or may not exist?
1. An application or script that will play sounds from a selected folder
at random times while my Mac is running?
2. An application or extension or CDEV that will change the desktop
pattern at startup each time to a random pattern in the desktop patterns
file?
Thanks.
Michael Webb
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:19:56 GMT
From: [email protected] (Elizabeth Reader)
Subject: Replies to Quadra 650 and System Problems
Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to respond to my pleas for help
in solving my Quadra 650 system problems and questions. A very special
thanks to Andy, Christian and Florin who all gave me great advice and
direction. Also thanks to Dan Frakes for InformInit and all the great
information on exts.and prefs.
I'm on the way to getting my system cleaned up. Thanks again!!
Eliza
Elizabeth Reader Voice/Fax: 011-39-789-736-877
PSC 816 Box 376 Internet: [email protected]
FPO, AE 09612 Moving is always an adventure.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:58:14 -0700
From: Dan & Melissa Becker
Subject: USRobotics Sportster + FreePPP 2.5v2 (C)
>I am using a USRobotics 28.8 Sportster and FreePPP 2.5v2, and I have
>noticed something strange. When I dial my school for the first time after
>the modem is turned on it does not "see" the modem and I have to cancel.
>The second, and n times I login it works perfectly.
I am having similar symptoms with FreePPP 2.5v2 and my
SupraExpress 28.8, which has the latest non-beta flash upgrade. FreePPP
initializes the modem and dials, but after the phone rings once, there is
silence and nothing happens. No answer from my ISP's modem, etc. But
clicking "stop" and then opening the connection again works fine, just as
you describe.
I haven't spent any time tracking this down, since I'm planning on
switching
to the latest versions of OT and OT/PPP this weekend, and it's not really
a
major annoyance. I'm currently running OT 1.1.1b7. I had this occur under
both 7.5.3 and 7.5.5.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:58:14 -0700
From: Dan & Melissa Becker
Subject: USRobotics Sportster + FreePPP 2.5v2 (C)
>I am using a USRobotics 28.8 Sportster and FreePPP 2.5v2, and I have
>noticed something strange. When I dial my school for the first time after
>the modem is turned on it does not "see" the modem and I have to cancel.
>The second, and n times I login it works perfectly.
I am having similar symptoms with FreePPP 2.5v2 and my
SupraExpress 28.8, which has the latest non-beta flash upgrade. FreePPP
initializes the modem and dials, but after the phone rings once, there is
silence and nothing happens. No answer from my ISP's modem, etc. But
clicking "stop" and then opening the connection again works fine, just as
you describe.
I haven't spent any time tracking this down, since I'm planning on
switching
to the latest versions of OT and OT/PPP this weekend, and it's not really
a
major annoyance. I'm currently running OT 1.1.1b7. I had this occur under
both 7.5.3 and 7.5.5.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:51:57 -0400
From: "Michael E. Gaines"
Subject: Whatever happened to Kaos?
Hi all,
A few months ago I put together a bunch of Syquests and backups to burn
onto CD-R. One app I came across was a little graphics program called
Kaos which created very nice fractal patterns. I have unsuccessfully
contacted the author using the email address in the about box. The app
will not work on the PPC platform. I'd like to get a hold of this app's
code and update it for PowerPC. Anyone know where I can get a hold of
the code or the author? Thanks!
Mike
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:09:13 -0400
From: [email protected] (Terry Hart)
I'm looking for a cheap cheap (me presently very poor) 040 or quadra for my
10 year old grandson? or maybe I'll give him my Performa 550 and keep the
040? Any ideas?
Thank you and Yours truly
Terry Hart, 12537A Monterey Circle, Blue Ridge Summit, PA 17214
Telephone: (717) 794-5338, Facsimile: (717) 794-5790
email: [email protected], Performa 550, 7.5.3, OT, FreePPP, 12 Megs.
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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 27 Sep 96 Volume 14 : Issue 221
Today's Topics:
[*] Aaron 1.5.1
[*] Anthem 1.01
[*] BibleBrowser - browse, read, and search the Holy Bible
[*] FoodFight!
[*] Glidel France 3.1
[*] Glidel U.S. 3.1
[*] Market Minder 1.0
[*] Power Windows 1.2.1
[*] SmoothType 1.1
[*] Super Othello 1.6
[*] The ClarisWorks Font Patch
[*] The Puppy Patch v2.0
(A) Performa 636 Battery
(C) PB5300c + 7.5.5 = Problems (4 msgs)
[A] Claris works compatibility
Idea for a program (Q)
Info-Mac Digest V14 #220
Libel (2 msgs)
Libel (C)
Mac zip disk
Netscape Problems
PlainTalk Mailing List
Problem: Mystery Megs
random sound player;random desktop pattern at startup
Replies to Quadra 650 and System Problems
USRobotics Sportster + FreePPP 2.5v2 (C) (2 msgs)
Whatever happened to Kaos?
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:45 -0500
From: (Gregory D. Landweber)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Aaron 1.5.1
Aaron 1.5.1 (September 9, 1996) by Greg Landweber and Edward Voas (c) 1996
Greg Landweber and Amargosa Software, Inc.
>From the authors of Greg's Buttons, Greg's Browser, and DoubleScroll.
Why wait for eight? Your Mac can have the Mac OS 8 user experience today!
Just drop Aaron into your Extensions folder, and your Mac will look just
like the Mac OS 8 Default Theme (Aaron is based on Apple's official Mac OS
8 interface specs). Aaron gives you 3D Mac OS 8-style windows, scroll bars,
buttons, folder icons, menus, fonts, pop-ups, progress boxes, Finder window
headers, and more. Aaron is a fat binary for Macs and PowerMacs.
Version 1.5.1 fixes a few minor problems.
-- Greg Landweber
[email protected]
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/aaron-151.hqx; 201K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:49 -0500
From: (Henry Harris)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Anthem 1.01
Anthem is a full-featured sequencer/notation/librarian Shareware package
for the Macintosh that provides full support for OMS 2.2, the OMS Name
Manager, QuickTime Musical Instruments and the MIDI Manager. The Sonata(tm)
font from Adobe is required. One millisecond sequencer resolution and 1024
ppqn score resolution, chord editor, fader documents, built-in universal
patch librarian to mention a few, are features that both the beginner and
the pro can appreciate. Package includes manual and examples. Single site
license is $60. See website at http://www.loop.com/~hharris/
[Archived as /info-mac/gst/midi/anthem-101.hqx; 1566K]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:52 -0500
From: (HolyMac Software)[email protected]
Subject: [*] BibleBrowser - browse, read, and search the Holy Bible
BibleBrowser is a friendly program for browsing, reading, and searching the
Holy Bible. It offers many features that make it useful while retaining a
simplicity that makes it easy to use.
It been tested on machines from the latest PowerMac to the earliest
MacPlus, system 7.5.x down through 6.0.7.
If you have a Mac and an interest in the Bible it's made just for you! If
you have any problems please let me know by email to .
BibleBrowser may be freely copied. I hope you enjoy it!
[Archived as /info-mac/app/bible-browser.hqx; 4858K]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:50 -0500
From: (Harley Bradley)[email protected]
Subject: [*] FoodFight!
MagicHat has done it AGAIN! This game is fun and absolutely hilarious.
Blast the Principal with a pie in the face. Hit the Cheerleader with a
tomato. Or you can splat the cafeteria lady with a helping of those
tasteless mashed potatoes she insists on plopping onto your tray. Throw
some jello at the old Math teacher Mrs. Bombottom. Lots of characters, lots
of funny sounds, LOTS OF FUN !!!
With exception to cantpeek and cantabort (to preserve the plotCicon XCMD)
this stack is totally UN-protected and wide open for the curious and/or
beginner Hypercard programmer.
Enjoy it. Pass it around. Guaranteed to make you LOL !!!!
[Archived as /info-mac/game/food-fight.hqx; 513K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:46 -0500
From: (Gilles Berkovitch)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Glidel France 3.1
Glidel est une extension qui sert, a partir de la selection du Finder, a :
- declencher les actions correspondants aux articles du menu Fichier,
- ouvrir des documents par des applications ne les ayant pas crees,
- mouvoir ou copier la selection,
- creer des alias de la selection.
Nouveautes de la version 3.1 :
- Meilleure detection du glissement de la selection du Finder,
- N'est plus flouee par une icone effacee en presentation par icone,
- Compatible avec Desktop PrintMonitor 2.0,
- Meilleure compatibilite avec Super Boomerang,
- Corrige une erreur en presence de QuickDraw GX.
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/glidel-31-fr.hqx; 37K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:46 -0500
From: (Gilles Berkovitch)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Glidel U.S. 3.1
Glidel is a system extension that extends the Finder's drag-and-drop
abilities within System 7. You can select any icon currently visible,
either on your Desktop or in an open folder, and drag it to:
* The Open, Print, Get Info, Sharing..., Duplicate, Make Alias, Put Away
options (and Reveal Original starting with system 7.5) on the File menu;
* Any application or folder in the Apple menu, including those accessible
via a third-party hierarchical menu utility such as BeHierarchic, NowMenus,
HAM, or OtherMenus;
* Any currently running application, via the Application menu on the
right-hand side of the menu bar.
New in version 3.1:
- Better detection of the Finder selection drag start,
- No more faked by an icon erased while view is by icon,
- Compatible with Desktop PrintMonitor 2.0,
- Better compatibility with Super Boomerang,
- Bug fix when QuickDraw GX is installed.
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/glidel-31.hqx; 38K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:53 -0500
From: (Gerry Rodrigues)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Market Minder 1.0
Market Minder is a stock market timing tool. It is a small program that
considers a number of economic and market indicators to determine whether
one should be investing in the stock market at any given moment. Market
Minder provides buy or sell recommendations based on current data on the
prime rate, discount rate, installment debt and the weekly close of the
Value Line Composite index. This calculation is based on a model outlined
by Martin Zweig in his book "Winning on Wall Street". Market Minder is
e-mailware.
System Requirements:
Market Minder requires 300 Kb of free RAM and should work on all Macs
running system 6.0 and up.
For more information, please read the Read Me file enclosed.
Gerry Rodrigues
[email protected]
[Archived as /info-mac/app/market-minder.hqx; 147K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:47 -0500
From: (Gregory D. Landweber)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Power Windows 1.2.1
Power Windows 1.2.1 (September 9, 1996) by Gregory D. Landweber (c) 1996 by
Gregory D. Landweber, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED By the coauthor of Aaron and
author of Greg's Buttons and Greg's Browser.
Power windows is a tiny extension that lets you drag the entire contents of
windows instead of a dotted outline. It also includes a "Translucent Power
Windows" variant that drags a partially transparent window. Unlike other
similar extensions, Power Windows uses backing store to preserve the
contents of the screen and avoid the "giant eraser" effect. Shareware $5.
Version 1.2.1 fixes conflicts with MiniCAD, Microsoft Excel, and Microsoft
Exchange.
-- Greg Landweber
[email protected]
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/power-windows-121.hqx; 77K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:48 -0500
From: (Gregory D. Landweber)[email protected]
Subject: [*] SmoothType 1.1
SmoothType 1.1 (September 9, 1996) by Gregory D. Landweber (c) 1995-1996 by
Gregory D. Landweber, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED By the coauthor of Aaron and
author of Greg's Buttons and Greg's Browser.
SmoothType is a tiny extension that makes your screen look more like the
printed page. Using a technique called anti-aliasing, SmoothType blurs the
jagged edges of bitmap fonts with shades of gray, effectively doubling your
screen resolution. SmoothType requires a fast machine, a high resolution
monitor, and TrueType or PostScript (with ATM) fonts. Shareware Fee: $5.
SmoothType 1.1 fixes problems with ClarisWorks, Eudora Pro, CyberDog, Code
Warrior, and others. It now anti-aliases PostScript fonts (with ATM).
-- Greg Landweber
[email protected]
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/smooth-type-11.hqx; 75K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:51 -0500
From: (Haakon Stodle)[email protected]
Subject: [*] Super Othello 1.6
Super Othello 1.6 is a HyperCard version of othello (also known as
reversi). It alows you to play against your Mac, a friend or just watch the
Mac as it plays against itself. You can choose between seven different
levels of difficulty when playing against the Mac, and you can play as
either black or white.
Super Othello also includes a tutorial which explains some of the basic
rules if you are unfamiliar with othello.
New in this version is:
- Improved super intelligence
- Ability to save and load games
- Two-pass chip checking
- Ability to log games for later reviewal - You can now play as either
black or white
Super Othello requires any Mac with HyperCard 2.0 or later, though running
Super Othello on an LC will be rather slow, as the Mac will use 30-60
seconds figuring out each move.
------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel
Stodle [email protected]
Fogd Dreyersgt. 21 Tel. +47 77 68 63 76 N-9008 Tromso
NORWAY
------------------------------------------------------------------
[Archived as /info-mac/game/brd/super-othello-16.hqx; 78K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:43 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: [*] The ClarisWorks Font Patch
Please find attached The ClarisWorks Font Patch. This patch does one thing:
it changes the default font in ClarisWorks from Helvetica to Times. Nothing
more, nothing less. It saves you the trouble of manually changing those
fonts in *every* document that you create.
Enjoy!
........................................... Wade Heninger
[email protected]
http://www.earthlink.net/~heninger/wade.html
...........................................
[Archived as /info-mac/text/cw-font-patch.hqx; 44K]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:49:52 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: [*] The Puppy Patch v2.0
Here is the second revision of The Puppy Patch (formerly called TCDAP). It
works with the new 1.1 GM version of Cyberdog that was just released.
If you are not familiar with The Puppy Patch, it replaces the running dog
animation with an updated Sybie animation that is more aesthetic. Enjoy
[Archived as /info-mac/comm/the-puppy-patch-20.hqx; 48K]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:48:09 -1000
From: Jerry Levinson
Subject: (A) Performa 636 Battery
I asked if I could replace the dead battery in my Performa 636 (4.5v
alkaline block) with 3 AA alkalines.
To make a long story short, yes. I tried it and it works. Details
available to those interested, just email me. If I get a lot of requests,
I'll post instructions, but it's not difficult, just what you'd expect.
Jerry
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:57:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John P. Speno"
Subject: (C) PB5300c + 7.5.5 = Problems
"Craig T. Martin" writes:
>Anyone have a better fix? I thought that one could use LaserWriter 8
>without the Desktop PrintMonitor, but that doesn't seem to work for me.
I upped the RAM requirement of the Desktop Printer and removed the Motorola
Math Library extension (LibMotoSh). That did it for me. I think it was the
later, not the former that really made it work.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:39:33 -0400
From: "Craig T. Martin"
Subject: (C) PB5300c + 7.5.5 = Problems
Regarding my recent posting:
>>Today's Problem: After installation of 7.5.5, I am unable to print in the
>>background with the PB5300c.
>
>I too upgraded from 7.5.3 to 7.5.5 with LaserWriter 8.4 already installed,
>on a
>PB520 w/ Apple PPC upgrade (which is supposed to be just like a PB5300).
>>Exactly the same symptoms! ...
My thanks to:
John P. Speno
Louis Chan
Peter H. Lipman
who all came up with the correct solution:
increase the memory allocated to "Desktop Printer Monitor"
Peter pointed me to Ric Ford's "invaluable" Macintouch Home Page.
http://www.macintouch.com/
The cure is found at the end of the Sep 26th entry. This is one of those
applications which needs slightly more memory under 7.5.5.
My thanks also to my Apple Sales Rep, Don Francolino, who stopped by my
office today to see if he could help (the solution was already in hand, but
the effort is appreciated).
Craig Martin
University of Massachusetts
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 22:58:57 -0500
From: Paul Kleeberg
Subject: (C) PB5300c + 7.5.5 = Problems
At 2:39 PM -0500 9/26/96, Craig T. Martin wrote:
>Regarding my recent posting:
>
>>>Today's Problem: After installation of 7.5.5, I am unable to print in the
>>>background with the PB5300c. [Lost keystrokes etc.]
>>
>>I too upgraded from 7.5.3 to 7.5.5 with LaserWriter 8.4 already installed,
>>on a
>>PB520 w/ Apple PPC upgrade (which is supposed to be just like a PB5300).
>>>Exactly the same symptoms! ...
>
> increase the memory allocated to "Desktop Printer Monitor"
Thank you very much! I have reloaded 7.5.5 and that appears to have solved
the problem. Background printing works and keystrokes are not lost.
Paul Kleeberg
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:33:21 -0700
From: [email protected] (Chris Schram)
Subject: (C) PB5300c + 7.5.5 = Problems
On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, "Craig T. Martin" wrote:
>Further analysis found that when a print job was queued (even from a
>previous startup), the background application "Desktop PrintMonitor" was
>continuously being launched and closing (no indication in the menu, but you
>could watch its Finder icon alternating greying and clearing up). This
>explains the constant disk activity and probably explains the keystroke
>buffer losses. Removing these two files and restarting removes all
>problems. I tried using LaserWriter 8.3.4 (with the Desktop Printer
>Extension and Monitor), but that was no better. I am now running with 7.5.5
>and LaserWriter 7.2 (old print monitor, no desktop anything). It works fine
>and I don't really miss the desktop printer icons, but 8.4 does print
>faster. I repeat - with this "fix" my PB520/PPC runs well with 7.5.5 - no
>other problems.
>
>Anyone have a better fix? I thought that one could use LaserWriter 8
>without the Desktop PrintMonitor, but that doesn't seem to work for me.
Did you try bumping up the Desktop PrintMonitor's memory allocation?
That brought my Color StyleWriter Pro back to life. It just may work
for you.
Chris Schram -- [email protected] -- http://www.coos.or.us/~schram
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:05:52 -0400
From: Jerry Wolf
Subject: [A] Claris works compatibility
>From what I recall when I upgraded to 4.0, it IS impossible to read
4.0 files with ClarisWorks 3.0. However Claris did release an
application that converts 4.0 files to 3.0 format. You can get it
from ftp://users.aol.com/macfaq/claris/cwconverter.hqx.
You may also be interested in a useful ClarisWorks FAQ at
http://users.aol.com/macfaq/clarisworks-faq.html.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:24:59 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: Idea for a program (Q)
Dear Digest readers,
Has anybody made a non-Applescript program that makes Netscape empty its
disk cache by the press of a button or an added menu item. I have
QuickKeys 3.5 and Netscape 3.0 if that makes any difference. I hate
having to always go to the Options Network Preferences when I want to
remove the cache files.
P.S. What INITs are necessary in System 7.5.5 to get AppleScript to work
correctly on a PowerMac 7200/75?
Thank you.
Sincerely,
[email protected]
-------
Check out my web page at http://www.bayserve.net/~abrody
Suggestions appreciated.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:21:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sterling Augustine
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #220
Axel Steininger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Modern Memory Manager (in the Memory CDEV) is responsible for 32bit
Ram addressing (I suppose that's what you meant?) Turn it off and you
have 16bit again. Nice little feature: If you turn it off your Mac won't
be able to access more than 16Mb of Ram
>>>>>>>>>>
[Uhhhh... I'm not an expert in this, however, two things. First, I do not
think the Mac was *ever* 16 bit. That is Windows your are thinking of. The
Mac was 24 bit (like my SE/30). I'm also pretty sure that the modern memory
manager won't change the status -- it is just a different/better implementation
of the Mac's memory manager.
Subject: Libel
As an info-mac subscriber and contributor, please let me reply to your
recent post:
>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 21:04:42 -0400
>From: [email protected]
>Subject: Libel
>
>My name is Carl Huben, and I am writing you to express my dismay at your
>irresponsible editorial practices.
>From my understanding, the moderators of the info-mac digest really don't
edit stuff, Carl. The messages for and replies to queries for help are
merely an additional service of being informed of what new software has
been added to the info-mac archive.
>
>In a previous issue of the info-mac digest, you printed Hannes Hofer's
>ludicrous and unsubstantiated claim that my Macintosh shareware program,
>Digital Equalizer 2.0, permanently damaged his computer. Anyone with a
solid
>understanding of Macintosh computers knows that software can absolutely not
>cause the problem he describes.
This list is not entirely devoted to those who have a solid understanding
of Macintosh computers. There are many of us on this list who use Macs at
home, at school, or in the work place and as such are casual users who
have no real understanding of fhte underlying programming which makes our
Macs work. And software can cause permanent damage to someone's machine
if it is used incorrectly, hacked irresponsibily, or written very poorly
(i.e. corrupt a hard drive or damage a software disk driver). Hannes
Hofer may not be a programmer, but merely a concerned Mac user who notice
something going awry after using your program. Perhaps this is your
program's fault, perhaps not. Either way, Hofer's request for info from
you were brushed off, so he turned to the Internet community. Without
knowing the full extent of the exchange between you and Mr. Hofer, I
really can not render an opinion on this front except to say that your
reply to him was not to his satisfaction.
However, the way to combat any responsibility for any possible damage
that may or may nor occur is to disclaim any implied warranty in your
Read Me file. I trust that you did this, and are therefore covered from
any possible real monetary assessment Mr. Hofer might try hold against
you.
>It was irresponsible of you to publish this
>letter, because it contains a false claim which has hurt my shareware
>business, and damaged my reputation as a programmer. It is clearly
libelous.
> Worse still, you did not bother to contact me before (or after) printing
>it.
The info-mac digest is under no obligation to contact you in regards to
questions or queries about your software; the digest is merely a forum
for the open exchange of ideas. I seriously doubt that one letter from
some guy is really going to damage your reputation as a programmer, and
let's face it, not many people profit from the shareware trade. Am I
right on this, the rest of you shareware authors? A study a few years ago
is there any body who can back me up on this, my memory is fuzzy) found
that maybe 1 in 100 folks pays a shareware fee for shareware they use, so
I seriously doubt you are making serious money programming shareware.
And if they wanted to, the moderators could yank your software from the
archive, which I would do if you continue making claims threating a
lawsuit. Info-mac is a volunteer effort, and they are under no obligation
to post every single piece of software which is forwarded to them. They
frequently purge the archive of outdated software or mal-functional,
unstable programs. So be careful what you threaten, because if it isn't
on info-mac, you aren't going to get a wide distribution for your
shareware. Things don't go travel far from AOL and CompuServe. It takes
info-mac and its mirrors around the world to really distribute Mac
shareware and freeware.
>Then, in a subsequent issue, you allowed a vituperative letter from Al
Bloom,
>in which he attacked the Digital Equalizer program, as well as me
personally.
> I am disgusted that you allowed this childish rant in your digest; it's
>completely inappropriate. You didn't contact me for a response to Bloom's
>letter, either.
Ooh! Big word, "vituperative"! Again, the digest moderators are under no
obligationto contact you. This isn't "Time" magazine, pal, it's a query
and reply format, folks discussing their experiences with the Mac with
the hope of imparting knowledge to others. Think of it as a caffee
klatsch for Mac addicts. If other folks think they can help Mr. Hofer
out, so be it. Mr. Bloom has been right on target with other fixes and
replies to help. More power to you, Bloom!
>After seeing Mr. Bloom's letter, I immediately composed a response which
>politely and reasonably addressed the claims made by Hofer and Bloom. I
>emailed it to you (at this address) on September 18th. In another enormous
>lapse of editorial responsibility, you chose not to print it.
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the way mailing lists and digests works.
Read the FAQ, buddy! Stuff is posted in the order it comes in to the
listproc. It is then added to the digest until a certian line limit is
hit and when an other issue of the digest is ready to be sent, it is sent
to the subscribers of the list. The moderators just hang around to make
sure no nasty flame wars get started and to make sure that the material
being posted pertains to the list. Other than that, no editorial controls
are exercised. Obviously, your letter has yet to be posted when you sent
this eMail. Or perhaps it got lost. That happens too. I uploaded 8
separate issues of the ezine I publish to the macgifts site six weeks ago
and they have never shown up in the archives, and I have never received a
respone to my query in regards to this situation. This sometimes happens.
The info-mac moderators are students and faculty members at educational
institutions and do the upkeep to the info-mac site and digests in their
spare time. Don't expect everything you send in to be replied to by
somebody right away. Take a chill pill, dude!
>
>As I said at the top of the letter, I am asking you for the last time to
>print the response I sent to you on the 18th of September. If you need
>another copy, write to me at this email address and I will provide one.
>
>If you do not allow me space in the digest to respond to the libelous
attacks
>you've printed, I will contact my corporation's attorney to discuss my
>options for legal action against the digest.
No can do, Carl. You'd have to sue all the 30,000 some-odd members of the
mailing list who read and respond to posts and queries. And the
moderators are under no legal obligation to you to print your reply,
either. If you have a problem with Mr. Bloom's or Mr. Hofer's comments
and complaints, take it up with them. Don't threaten the hand that feeds
you, because your shareware won't go anywhere if it is yanked from the
info-mac archives.
This said, I do empathize with your position. As the editor and publisher
of POETRY INK, an ezine distributed via eMail, I must toe the line every
issue to make sure things are within legal bounds. That is the difference
between an electronic digest and an electronic magazine; the editors are
responsible for the content of a ezine but not for a digest.
Putting myself in your place, it is distressing to see the product of
your labor slammed by folks. But it comes with the territory when you
relase things to the Internet, and despite the your best efforts to test
your software, it can still conflict with other third-party software.
That is the risk folks take with any piece of software when they download
it and use it on their system. Get over it, Mr. Huben. This is the nature
of the shareware market.
And Gordon had no need to aplogize. He should have just yanked Digital
Equalizer 2.0 from the archive without any explanation. He has the right
to do so, just as you have the right to submit it for consideration for
the archive.
In fact, I propose that the readers of the digest vote on whether
so-called "used fruit" software which has generated an abundance of
complaints be removed from the archives; thus, the moderators are recused
of any legal action.
Regards,
Matthew W. Schmeer
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:47:40 +0000
From: Peter McDermott
Subject: Libel
In article ,
Christopher Li wrote:
>> Then, in a subsequent issue, you allowed a vituperative letter from Al
Bloom,
>> in which he attacked the Digital Equalizer program, as well as me
>personally.
>
>
>I think that it is unfortunate that the two individuals above chose to
>present their case in the tone and manner that they did. Info-mac is an
>extremely valuable forum for discussing Macintosh news and problems,
>getting advice and just gathering information in general. If they had a
>problem with a particular piece of software (regardless as to whether or
>not they had a basis for a complaint) it would have been far more
>constructive if they had presented their case calmly and rationally, which
>would have given the author a fair chance to respond to their complaints in
>a public forum.
One man's meat is another man's poison. Some people lean towards
a dry, strictly factual style. Other people prefer a more.. rhetorical
style. Personally, I find Al Bloom's posts - including the one you
refer to - both informative _and_ entertaining. You pays your money (or
you don't, in the case of Info-Mac) and you take your choice.
[Al isn't always right, but he almost always makes me laugh out loud.
I'm glad he reads this list! Especially when he starts out a mail
message with "xxx made me sound almost sane by writing..."
-Gordon]
Personally, I found the response by the software author to be
ill-tempered and a gross overreaction, and consequently would go
out of my way to _avoid_ using his software in the future. People
are entitled to their views, and while he has every right to
seek to correct them, I found his threat of libel to be totally
ridiculous, and inappropriate in this forum. The Info-Mac
moderators do a good job, unpaid, and their only censorship
function seems to be keeping the spam out to ensure that this
forum is eminently readable. If the author of the program used
the same sort of research to write his program as he did when
he threatened the Info-Mac moderators, then it's hardly surprising
it was described as a 'piece of used food'.
>Because a program crashes or has bugs certainly doesn't mean that it's
>useless - there is scarcely any software available today that will run on
>all systems and all configurations without some problems.
Completely true. However, one of the reasons I read Info-Mac is
to find out what doesn't work. People are perfectly entitled to
express their views about software or anything else. That's how
the net works. Learn to deal with it, or stick to printed media.
>Further, there is a difference in size here that should dictate the scale
>of your response. If you write some very strongly worded comments about
>the software produced by an EXTREMELY LARGE software company (no names
>please!) it's very unlikely to cause that company any damage, in fact it
>may take a strongly worded message to get a significant response from a
>large company. On the other hand, the same strongly worded comments
>addressed to a shareware developer are likely to be very damaging to the
>sales and reputation of that developer (who is usually an individual, and
>not a large corporation) when they are seen by the public without a
>balancing opinion.
Tough. That's the way the world works. Good products get praised.
Sad products get slated. If you don't want to get slated, produce a
better product. I know of no reason why shareware developers should
be exempt from the workings of the market.
>Since many of these people (like me) depend in part or
>in full on income derived from shareware to support themselves and their
>families it's easy to see how an ill-considered posting can cause serious
>damage to several people's lives.
Rubbish. Good products sell. Useless products don't. You can't blame
your critics if you've produced a useless product. Not only is it totally
illogical, it's also bad business practice. In fact, software authors
should be encouraging as _much_ critical feedback as they can get, so
they can fix their products and produce software the user actually
wants.
>As to criticism's of the author's spelling mistakes, why is that even
>included in the complaint at all? Firstly, I certainly don't see how that
>is relevant in any way to the functioning of a piece of software. Secondly,
It's indicative of the author's professionalism and the overall
quality of the product. Given your inability to see its relevance,
I'm not surprised you worry about people discussing _your_ products
in public.
>who really cares whether the author misspelled something or not if the
>meaning is conveyed correctly (plenty of people misspell things, that's why
>there's a market for spell-checkers, right?).
And given that there _are_ spell checkers (and even things printed on
paper called dictionaries) the only excuse an author can have for such
mistakes is a sloppy attitude to his product and a lack of professionalism
in his work. You may think that's acceptable in the products you turn
out. I don't think it's acceptable in the products that I want to buy.
[Well, now you've got me embarassed. I'm a horrid speller and I don't run
a spell cheker. And my mother is an english prof. Go figure. Hope no one
is really bothered by it...
-Gordon][On a more serious note. I like to see this discussed every now and then
because it reminds us all of what info-mac is and does. However, I would
like to keep it on an impersonal level. So, feel free to comment, but
perhaps we should stop singling out any particular person. After all, in
my tenure here at info-mac there have been a number of misunderstandings
of this nature... Heck, I think Al even yelled at me once... must be
doing something right.
-Gordon]------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 96 21:36:48 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom"
Subject: Libel (C)
On Tue, 24 Sep, Carl Huben made me sound like a sane person by writing:
>My name is Carl Huben, and I am writing you to express my dismay at your
>irresponsible editorial practices.
>
>In a previous issue of the info-mac digest, you printed Hannes Hofer's
>ludicrous and unsubstantiated claim that my Macintosh shareware program,
>Digital Equalizer 2.0, permanently damaged his computer.
>
>Then, in a subsequent issue, you allowed a vituperative letter from Al Bloom,
>in which he attacked the Digital Equalizer program, as well as me personally.
>I am disgusted that you allowed this childish rant in your digest.
>
>If you do not allow me space in the digest to respond to the libelous attacks
>you've printed, I will contact my corporation's attorney to discuss my
>options for legal action against the digest.
Vituperative? Moi?
I didn't want to get back into this one, but I can't let Gordon take all
the heat.
I'm embarrassed by my note on the subject. It was a draft that got away
>From me. I meant to SAVE it and SENT it instead. One of these days I may
understand enough about computers to make them do what I want instead of
doing what I tell them. Macmod could not intercept it before it came out
in the digest. I said things about Hannes that would never have passed
a second draft. I was rude, crude, and unacceptable. I apologize, Hannes.
However, I wouldn't have changed a word of what I said about Digital
Equalizer.
Mr. Huben must develop a somewhat thicker skin if he is to lay out his
product before us as a commercial endeavor. I've been in the racket, too.
The most important thing I learned was that most often the customer is
not a liar. He or she experienced the problem described. And describing
the problem was not an attack on my manhood or livelihood. I learned to
encourage problem reports. It makes for a better product. I don't pretend
to perfection. I just strive for it.
I suggest that Mr. Huben spend less time being mad and less time making
mostly meaningless threats of legal action. And more time improving his
product. I suggest the latter course is more profitable.
Al Bloom
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:32:37 +0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Mac zip disk
Iomega promises 100Mb per disk. But mac formatted zip disks are at an
average of 95Mb only, are we short changed? Curious about the answer if
anyone has it. Thank you
khoon
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:11:19 GMT
From: [email protected] (Melissa Maier)
Subject: Netscape Problems
>I have recently been having problems using ANY version of Netscape. I am
>experiencing frequent (several each day) complete system freezes.
Me, too. After realizing that at 8 megs RAM (RAM-Doubled to 16) on an LC
630 I don't have enough muscle to run Netscape 3.0, I reverted to 2.0.
Since then, I have experienced far more crashes than previously (and they
were by no means rare in the past). My hodgepodge of extensions is
different, but nothing has changed recently-- except the presence of both
2.0 and 3.0 on the hard disk. Could they be interfering with each other
somehow? (I'd like to hang on to the 3.0 just in case someday my RAM
situation changes.)
greetings-- melissa.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:45:34 -0500
From: Jesse Kaysen
Subject: PlainTalk Mailing List
On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, [email protected] (Thomas Kahn) asked us about
How can I make interactive scripts with PlainTalk and AppleScript?
other questions about Speech Recognition pop up from time to time
There's a mailing list for these kinds of questions: The disabled-talk list
is for plain-talk users/programmers (afraid that's pretty much the same
thing these days). Many, but not all, subscribers *really need* PlainTalk
because they can't use keyboards.
Subscription info and more details at
http://thelorax.res.cmu.edu/lists
where you'll find subscription info.
Jesse the K
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:22:43 -0400
From: E+C Behme
Subject: Problem: Mystery Megs
Greetings!
Until about 3 days ago, my LC630/20/260/7.5.5 indicated HD useage of
174Megs (yup, I need to run a clean ship)
Then, all of a sudden and with no special downloads, the figure
increased to 181Megs.
-- I counted the folder sizes from the get-info boxes = 174Megs
-- I ran First Aid and Dr. Norton - no HD problems
-- I optimzed the drive - still 181Megs
-- I went back to System 7.5.3 and reinstalled 7.5.5 still 181Megs
I'm totally stumped and a little worried.
Any further suggestions? Do I have to go back to 7.5.1 or (horror!) have
to reformat, or is there some other way to reclaim those weird 7Megs?
Cheers,
Eckhard Behme
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Nova Scotia - Open to the World: http://novasco.com/
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:53:03 +0100
From: [email protected] (Michael Webb)
Subject: random sound player;random desktop pattern at startup
Could you helpful, fellow-Macites help me with the following requests for
software that may or may not exist?
1. An application or script that will play sounds from a selected folder
at random times while my Mac is running?
2. An application or extension or CDEV that will change the desktop
pattern at startup each time to a random pattern in the desktop patterns
file?
Thanks.
Michael Webb
[email protected]
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:19:56 GMT
From: [email protected] (Elizabeth Reader)
Subject: Replies to Quadra 650 and System Problems
Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to respond to my pleas for help
in solving my Quadra 650 system problems and questions. A very special
thanks to Andy, Christian and Florin who all gave me great advice and
direction. Also thanks to Dan Frakes for InformInit and all the great
information on exts.and prefs.
I'm on the way to getting my system cleaned up. Thanks again!!
Eliza
Elizabeth Reader Voice/Fax: 011-39-789-736-877
PSC 816 Box 376 Internet: [email protected]
FPO, AE 09612 Moving is always an adventure.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:58:14 -0700
From: Dan & Melissa Becker
Subject: USRobotics Sportster + FreePPP 2.5v2 (C)
>I am using a USRobotics 28.8 Sportster and FreePPP 2.5v2, and I have
>noticed something strange. When I dial my school for the first time after
>the modem is turned on it does not "see" the modem and I have to cancel.
>The second, and n times I login it works perfectly.
I am having similar symptoms with FreePPP 2.5v2 and my
SupraExpress 28.8, which has the latest non-beta flash upgrade. FreePPP
initializes the modem and dials, but after the phone rings once, there is
silence and nothing happens. No answer from my ISP's modem, etc. But
clicking "stop" and then opening the connection again works fine, just as
you describe.
I haven't spent any time tracking this down, since I'm planning on
switching
to the latest versions of OT and OT/PPP this weekend, and it's not really
a
major annoyance. I'm currently running OT 1.1.1b7. I had this occur under
both 7.5.3 and 7.5.5.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:58:14 -0700
From: Dan & Melissa Becker
Subject: USRobotics Sportster + FreePPP 2.5v2 (C)
>I am using a USRobotics 28.8 Sportster and FreePPP 2.5v2, and I have
>noticed something strange. When I dial my school for the first time after
>the modem is turned on it does not "see" the modem and I have to cancel.
>The second, and n times I login it works perfectly.
I am having similar symptoms with FreePPP 2.5v2 and my
SupraExpress 28.8, which has the latest non-beta flash upgrade. FreePPP
initializes the modem and dials, but after the phone rings once, there is
silence and nothing happens. No answer from my ISP's modem, etc. But
clicking "stop" and then opening the connection again works fine, just as
you describe.
I haven't spent any time tracking this down, since I'm planning on
switching
to the latest versions of OT and OT/PPP this weekend, and it's not really
a
major annoyance. I'm currently running OT 1.1.1b7. I had this occur under
both 7.5.3 and 7.5.5.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:51:57 -0400
From: "Michael E. Gaines"
Subject: Whatever happened to Kaos?
Hi all,
A few months ago I put together a bunch of Syquests and backups to burn
onto CD-R. One app I came across was a little graphics program called
Kaos which created very nice fractal patterns. I have unsuccessfully
contacted the author using the email address in the about box. The app
will not work on the PPC platform. I'd like to get a hold of this app's
code and update it for PowerPC. Anyone know where I can get a hold of
the code or the author? Thanks!
Mike
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:09:13 -0400
From: [email protected] (Terry Hart)
I'm looking for a cheap cheap (me presently very poor) 040 or quadra for my
10 year old grandson? or maybe I'll give him my Performa 550 and keep the
040? Any ideas?
Thank you and Yours truly
Terry Hart, 12537A Monterey Circle, Blue Ridge Summit, PA 17214
Telephone: (717) 794-5338, Facsimile: (717) 794-5790
email: [email protected], Performa 550, 7.5.3, OT, FreePPP, 12 Megs.
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