Info-Mac Digest V14 #46
Posted: February 20th, 1996, 6:00 am
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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 20 Feb 96 Volume 14 : Issue 46
Today's Topics:
[!] Changes in people at info-mac...
[*] TidBITS#315/19-Feb-96
(Q): PGM file format on the Mac?
(q) weird buttons & ports
[Q] Problem with Linelink 144e Modem
British pound sign and PopChar
Can't start-up from CD
Data Recovery Toolkit - A Horror Story!!
Entering characters by ASCII nos in PageMaker
Eudora Forward
Global Chat 1.1.6
Good Calendar Program?
Graphing Calculator for 68k?
Info-Mac Digest V14 #44 (2 msgs)
ISDN
Microsoft Word 6.0 Vs Claris Works 4.0
MS Word 5.1a weirdness...
No Sound on PowerMac 7100/66
OpenDoc for Java coming...
Open Transport error (2 msgs)
Panasonic Mac Clones
re> Boot from Zip/external drive? (R)
Recursive Files on PC Formatted Storeage Media
ScanMaker and 7500 [Q]
Some questions to be answered?
Storing e-mail in an IR data base
system 7.5 basic question
Why I can't record speech in SoundEdit?
Word Purchase
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 03:52:13 -0600
From: Gordon Watts -- Brown University
Subject: [!] Changes in people at info-mac...
Hi,
Well, as of this digest (if I remember to do it!), Bill Lipa is off the
masthead.
This guy was on back in the days when Jon Pugh helped out (long
long long time ago). Bill is the fellow who got me into info-mac -- as an
archivist. A year or so later Igor came on board and took over archiving while
I moved up to making the digests. At that point, Bill stopped having any day
to day involvement in info-mac, but kept his hand firmly on the tiller. We
then added Liam who did most of the reorg of info-mac directory structure.
Liam now is in charge of the mirrors and other special projects (like the new
machine). That was the point that Bill sort of drifted away -- but we kept him
on the masthead. After Liam, we added Adam (who is in charge of the comm
directory structure).
More changes are underway, however. First off, we are getting ready to
complete our move to a new location (a sun server donated by AOL, along with 5
gig!! of disk space... yay!). Igor is retiring and we've brought someone new
on board with us: Demitri. He is taking over the archivist job from Igor.
Igor, like Bill, has done a great job: he is responsble for moving the
archive from my original system to a 24 hour turn around for submitted
binaries. A tough act to follow, but Demitri says he is up to it! Igor has
served with us for, oh, two years I think [I'm really bad with time/dates --
just ask my exgirlfriend]. And every damm day he has done the archiving (there
are rumors he even did it on his honeymoon). Igor didn't want to write
anything, so I thought I'd talk him up a bit.
If you want to thank those guys you can! Send them email! Bill Lipa is at
[email protected] and Igor is at [email protected]. They are a bit part
of the reason that info-mac is what it is today!
Cheers,
Gordon.
P.S. A little thing from Bill....
****
Hi Gordon,
Things are going really well... check out our web site at www.ten.net.
Check me out on the company picture (behind the sign on the right)!
I always meant to take myself off but it was one of those things I never
got around to doing. If you could do that, I would appreciate it. I
regret not being able to spend more time on Info-Mac but unfortunately
the startup just ate up my life! Plus I got married too which was quite
a time sink (well worth it though).
I hope everything is going well for you and Info-Mac. It was always a
pleasure working with you and everyone else and I have many fond memories.
Thanks,
Bill
PS. You can include this mail in the digest if you want to make an
announcement of sorts.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:48:07 -0800
From: [email protected] (TidBITS Editors)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#315/19-Feb-96
TidBITS#315/19-Feb-96
Apple's in the news, announcing a deal to license the Mac OS to
Motorola plus the first beta of Cyberdog, its set of OpenDoc-
based Internet tools. Also this week, we have news on Macromedia's
Shockwave plug-in and Sun's Java Development Kit for the Mac,
Garry Kasparov's chess match against Deep Blue, and a TidBITS
survey (the future of the Reviews column hangs in the balance!).
Finally, Matt Kall contributes an overview of the reality and the
implications of the Telecommunications Act of 1996.
Topics:
MailBITS/19-Feb-96
Reviews Survey
Man Wins... This Time
The Telecommunications Act: The Good, Bad, and Unknown
Reviews/19-Feb-96
[Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-315.etx; 30K]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:23:56 -0500
From: [email protected] (Ed)
Subject: (Q): PGM file format on the Mac?
a picture in a PGM ASCII-format? Graphic Convertor will save it in a
non-ASCII format, but has no option to do an ASCII-format.
Please send information directly to me, and I will summarize for
the list.
Thank You.
Edmund Chambers
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Masters Student in Electrical Engineering
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:38:56 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: (q) weird buttons & ports
Dear Mac-Infomeisters,
I am sure this sounds like a stupid question, but there is an extra button on
my monitor in back with an icon like a horsshoe magnet with a ghostbusters
sign around it. When I press it, the whole screen goes wibbily wobbly and I
don't know what it just did. It is an Apple Monitor. What I want to know is
what the thing does and if I should be presssing the button at all.
Another thing that is puzzling me is an extra port on the back of my
AppleDesign Powered Speakers. It looks like the megahorn icon used commonly
for sound with parentheses around it. It accepts normal earphone plugs like
that which is on the back of my mac. I called 1-800-sos-apple and they
really didn't help me at all. I am just wondering if anyone out there knows
what I am talking about. If so, please e-mail me. Thanks.
later,
kurt
-> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Eval:23Apr95
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:02:08 -0500 (EST)
From: "DR. L.G. LEDUC"
Subject: [Q] Problem with Linelink 144e Modem
I seem to have a problem with my Linelink 144e modem. However, I am not
sure if the problem is with my modem or the remote modem which I connect
to. Let me explain the problem.
I've been using the Linelink modem for several months to connect to a
university Vax computer without any problems. The university has two
banks of lines and modems: one bank is used by students whereas the
other is used by faculty/staff. I was using the faculty lines without
any problems. For the past few days, my Linelink cannot establish a
connection with the faculty modems. However, I can negotiate a good
connection with the student modems. I find it puzzling that the Linelink
would suddenly fail with some lines and not with others! It is even more
puzzling because of the fact that the Linelink dials the number
correctly and shows a CONNECT message BUT the carrier is lost within a
couple of seconds.
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please reply
directly to me: [email protected]
Leo G. Leduc
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:10:33 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: British pound sign and PopChar
>>>Date: 12 Feb 96 08:54:10 +0000
From: Doug Lobdell
Subject: British pound sign and PopChar
>>>Figured this discussion is a good lead-in to a question that has plagued
our office for a few weeks now. We recently upgraded to Sys 7.5, the latest
Microsoft suite, WordPerfect (may it live forever - are you listening,
Corel?), and ClarisDraw. We're all disappointed to find that a most useful
utility, PopChar, no longer works. Fully, that is - it seems limited to
Geneva and an occasional Monaco, no matter what font we're actually currently
using. PopChar would provide an instant answer to the 'pound sign' problem,
and is indispensable for anyone using any dingbats and any fonts that may not
have full character sets, non-standard characters, etc. Have we missed an
update to Gunther Blaschek's most excellent (FREE!) program, does anyone know
about system conflicts in 7.5 that blurp PopChar, or are there any other
clues out there??>Many thanx in advance, both from myself and the local office.>>Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:14:55 +0000
From: "Howard E. Deutch"
Subject: Data Recovery Toolkit - A Horror Story!!
On November 29, 1995 my hard drive crashed. I had seen advertisements
of a product called Data Recovery Toolkit manufactured by Total Recall,
Inc. which was described as disaster recovery software. I called Total
Recall, Inc. and described my problem. I asked if they thought Data
Recovery Toolkit could recover data from my crashed hard drive. They
said there was a high likelihood that it would.
[most of horror story deleted for reasons of length & extremity of horror
]
On January 31st I returned the disk. In my letter I gave Kelly one last
chance to refund my money. On February 2nd he telephoned me and said he
had no intention of doing so.>
A feature I found useful in Word was the ability to enter characters by their
ASCII numbers. Type cmd-opt-Q, then type the number, and presto Word entered
the character corresponding to that ASCII number. Does anybody know if
something similar can be done in PageMaker 5.0?
Subject: Eudora Forward
Well, this isn't exactly the world's biggest problem, but it is
a stumper for me. Previously, my version of Eudora Pro would
mark a message that I forwarded with something like:
----- Forwarded Message ------
Now all I get is quotation marks in the forwarded message.
I liked the old header, but can't figure out how to set to the
other method.
Tips, hints are appreciated.
Jeffrey Fritz
[email protected]
West Virginia University
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:44:05 -0500
From: [email protected] (Trish Clark)
Subject: Global Chat 1.1.6
I just downloaded and configured Global Chat 1.1.6 and every time I try to
join a chat, Global works for a few moments and then freezes up. Does
anyone out there know why this might be happening?
Trish
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 20:40:30 JST
From: [email protected] (Keith S. Wilkinson)
Subject: Good Calendar Program?
Can anyone recommend a good calendar program that will print two-, three- or
four-week calendars extending from midway through one month to midway throug
h the next? Commercial program, shareware or freeware acceptable.
Keith WILKINSON, Home e-mail: CompuServe 100207,710
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:53:52 -0600
From: [email protected] (Kent Shook)
Subject: Graphing Calculator for 68k?
Hi,
I'm in need of some graphing calculator software, and I'm wondering if
anyone out there has any recommendations. I'm hoping for freeware or
shareware.
I tried the graphing calculator that comes on Power Macs, but alas, my poor
old Duo 210 won't run it.
Thanks,
Kent Shook
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:38:54 -0600
From: [email protected] (F. L. Beaver)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #44
Note that the recent US Constitution Newton Book has been archived as:
/info-mac/art/us-constitution-10-book.hqx
It should really be archived as:
/info-mac/nwt/book/us-constitution-10-book.hqx
since you cannot view it unless you have a Newton MessagePad or compatible.
F. L. Beaver
[email protected]
--
F. L. Beaver - Webmaster for Hot Links!
mailto:[email protected]
http://www.mailhost.net/~hotlinks
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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 00:38:04 -0700
From: [email protected] (Neil Fiertel)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #44
I received word from the clever programmer of Max Ram that the program will
exclusively operate with Ram Doubler 1.6 . It does not work with 1.6.1 for
those that hoped that it did. I trust someone will make a similar hack
that will work with newer Ram Doublers. The originator of this nice little
program is now a busy student at UC, Berkeley which he naturally has made
his priority...glad to here someone treats University as a priority rather
than a place to gain free internet connects! Let's wish him good luck! He
did many people a favour with that program, though, alas, not I having had
1.6.1 upgraded before I heard of the hacked patch...
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:09:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email protected]
Subject: ISDN
What do people on the list think aboutthe Motorola TA210?? I am thinking
about purchasing it for the Performa 475. Can it work like a regular modem
and also work as it should, for ISDN? Thanks in advance!!
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:20:00 -1000
From: [email protected] (Ed Cesar)
Subject: Microsoft Word 6.0 Vs Claris Works 4.0
My guess is that the winner of the debate between the merits of Microsoft
Word 6.01 Vs Claris Works 4.0, if there was one, has been declared long
ago. I would be interested in a discussion of the major pros and cons of
each with regard to wordprocessing. I would appreciate someone referring
me to either the number of a prior posting on this net or a book that
discusses them fairly.
Thanks a lot.
Ed Cesar
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:44:33 -0400
From: [email protected] (Mustafa Ziyalan)
Subject: MS Word 5.1a weirdness...
Suddenly I am unable to print certain documents from within MS Word 5.1a.
I have a Performa 630 CD with 8 meg of RAM and a HP DeskWriter 540.
I can print from within other applications, I can print documents saved
before circa 2/13 but I can't print documents I newly create from within MS
Word 5.1a. Printing starts and an alert says "can't open printer; go to
chooser and chose another printer..." which seems to be a printer driver
alert and reportedly comes up in memory tight situations. Same thing
happened with all extensions except the printer driver disabled and after I
reinstalled the printer driver. Also, nothing particular happened by the
date 2/13.
Your suggestions will be appreciated!
Mustafa Ziyalan
[email protected]
http://maxwell.njit.edu/merhaba/dir/mziyalan/
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:40:05 -0800
From: [email protected] (Martin Forrester)
Subject: No Sound on PowerMac 7100/66
>I have a friend using a PowerMac 8100 running System 7.5.1 and an external
>NEC 4X CD drive. He is wondering if there is any way to record parts of
>songs from normal audio CDs by musical artists and turn them into sound
>bites in the .SND or .AIFF format. Has anyone heard of a utility that does
>this? Thanks!
>
>Michael James Miller, Information Director
>Catholic Health Association of Wisconsin, Madison
>[email protected]
You can use Apple's "Movie Player" (available from their Web & ftp sites)
to do this.
As I recall you do it in two steps...first open the track from the CD and
save the portion you want in a "movie" format. Then open >that
Subject: OpenDoc for Java coming...
...if we call for it!
OpenDoc would bring a whole new level of capabilities to Java programmers
and applet users, allowing applets to be integrated seamlessly, and
complex applications to be constructed of interchangable components.
I believe Java is OpenDoc's best potential platform: a highly productive
cross-platform environment with broad industry support and a rapidly
growing audience.
It would also help Sun and Netscape in their struggle against Microsoft's
so-called standards.
To voice your support for this idea, visit this new Web page about it:
http://summary.net/~breck/java-opendoc.html
(Webmasters are welcome to create links to this page. I suggest the link
name be "OpenDoc for Java".)
Liam Breck
Data Innovations, Amherst Mass. [email protected]
PS: please CC me in any responses
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 12:58:00 -0600
From: Pete Resnick
Subject: Open Transport error
On 2/18/96 at 10:20 PM, Stephen C. Camidge wrote:
>I installed the Open Transport 1.1 and found a big problem.
As far as I know, OT 1.1 is still in beta test. (Since I am beta testing, I
very much hope it is since I have heard no announcement to the contrary.)
Do you have a beta version? If so, have you reported the problem to Apple?
>If I revert to MacTCP after deleting the Open Transport files, I find that
>MacTCP becomes invisible and the type changes to ????, then it will not
>function. If I delete, and move in a backup copy and reboot, it too
>becomes invisible. The short term fix is to make it visible and reset the
>type. I can then reboot and get to the internet.
>
>Then when I reboot, it becomes invisible again.
Did you delete OT by using the "Remove" option in the Installer, or did you
just try to guess which things to remove and which not to?
In any event, if this is beta software, it is inappropriate to be posting
questions here about it. I think I know what your problem might be, but I
am certainly not at liberty to talk about it as I am under non-disclosure.
pr
--
Pete Resnick
QUALCOMM Incorporated
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:46:14 -0500
From: [email protected] (Stephen C. Camidge)
Subject: Open Transport error
Got it.
After receiving comments, I tried a few more settings. I had to switch my
TCP/IP Setting to "Using PPP Server". Then all was well. Open Transport
works.
My problem with MacTCP was likely due to my manually removing Open
Transport rather than using the installer.
Thank you very much for your help.
Steve
Stephen C. Camidge
[email protected]
RR #1, Desboro, Ontario N0H 1K0 Canada (519) 363-3912
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:41:08 -1000
From: Jerry Levinson
Subject: Panasonic Mac Clones
A friend in Japan just sent me a couple of flyers he picked up there
(probably in Akihabara). They are all in Japanese so here's the bits I
figured out:
Pioneer is coming out with a "multimedia personal computer" model MPC-GX1
that runs the Mac OS. Uses a 66MHz PPC 601 chip, comes with 8MB/500MB
memory, 2 stereo speakers and one super woofer, 4.4spd Pioneer CD-ROM
drive, 2MB VRAM, 256Kb level 2 cache, etc. No price listed.
I must have missed mention of Pioneer going into the Mac Clone business
in the U.S. press...
The other item is Ghost Writer for Windoze and Mac, cost 5,980 yen. It
appears to be a voice input system, but there is more kanji on the flyer
than I can deal with so I am guessing.
Can any of your Japanese readers provide more information?
Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:07:54 -0500
From: [email protected] (Mel E. Martinez)
Subject: re> Boot from Zip/external drive? (R)
At 8:09 AM 2/19/96, John Antolak wrote:
>In Info-mac #45, you said:
>
>By default, the mac will look to scsi ID 7 (the internal drive) for a
>startup volume. If that drive is not suitable, it then looks to ID 6, then
>ID 5 and so on, with scsi ID 0 having the lowest priority.
>--
>
>I hate to nitpick, but SCSI 0 is usually the internal drive, and SCSI 7 is
>reserved for the Mac CPU (at least on all of the Macs I've seen).
>
Yeah, technically, the correct way for me have to put it is that the SCSI
bus establishes control priority based on highest ID number, hence the mac
cpu as device #7 has default control of the bus. The search for a bootable
volume does then proceed from 6 down to 0 in that order, if no startup
drive is specified. So the solution to getting the mac to boot from an
external volume is still the same as I posted (hold the mouse button down
during startup, which causes the mac to 'forget' which volume is the
startup volume).
Note, btw, that if a mac does not have an internal drive, an external drive
can have ID 0.
A perfectly fair nitpick. I should have taken time to double-check my
scsci notes before ripping off the reply.
Cheers,
Dr. Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics
[email protected]
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 08:52:52 UT
From: "Perry Low"
Subject: Recursive Files on PC Formatted Storeage Media
I have PC files on Bernoulli disks that I want to burn to CD-ROM, using a CD
burner that is attached to a Power (MAC) PC.
When I put the source media (PC formatted Bernoullis) into the MAC, some of
the files appear with a "MAC Systems File" icon. When these files are opened,
they appear to contain a duplicate copy of the whole Bernoulli disk. Those
files then open to show the entire contents of the Bernoulli again -
infinately looping.
Deleting these infinately looping files causes the entire contents of the
Bernoulli to be errased!
What is causing the problem and how can I solve it?
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:00:10 -0600 (CST)
From: Kent G Shook
Subject: ScanMaker and 7500 [Q]
Hi,
I'm trying to get a Microtek ScanMaker IIsp to work with a Power Mac 7500.
The scanner comes with Color It! 3.0.3 and the ScanMaker PPC plug-in 3.0.2.
What happens is when I try to run Color It, and then use the plug-in, it
quits with a type 1 error. I've tried turning extensions off, and I even did
a clean reinstall of the system. Same thing happens every time. And
Microtek's people have the day off, it seems...
Is there anyone out there with a Microtek scanner and PCI Power Mac that can
get the Color It software and the plug-in to work? Please reply by e-mail,
and I'll summarize to the net.
Thanks,
Kent Shook
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:02:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim J
Subject: Some questions to be answered?
Hello!
I am thinking of buying some Apple products, and I would like people's
opinion.
1: Does anybody have a PowerBook 190cs/66 8/500 computer? I am thinking
of buying one, and I would like to see if I can get the lowest price
ever. So far, I've gotten as far as $1864, and I want to know if I can
get it lower somewhere. Any help?
2: If I find that the PowerBook 190cs/66 8/500 doesn't "cut" it for me,
what Power Macintosh would you all suggest for the cheapest price, and
for a person who has never owned a color monitor. Yes, I am still on a
B&W Macintosh Classic.... That's why I want the cheapest PM.
3: Is RAM Doubler (by Connectix) really flaky? I've seen it in use alot
in my present job, and it seems to work for them fine, but I've also heard
that it causes more problems then helps. Any suggestions on either to
buy it or not? I am planning to buy that too.
4: Recently, I've heard about a "RAM Doubler Pump" on Info-Mac... Is
this a commercial product, or a info-mac free type thing? I want to get
it for the people that use RAM Doubler at work.
5: For a person who thinks about buying these items, can somebody suggest
something else that might be useful? True, that it will take me a while
to get all of these things, but any suggestions?
*Thanks*
-Tim Judd
--
This is my signature... Do you like it?
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:56:09 +0100 (MET)
From: Jacob Palme
Subject: Storing e-mail in an IR data base
I would like to store my e-mail in an information retrieval
data base, from which I can rapidly search for old messages
based on boolean conditions of author, date, recipient,
words in the subject, words in the text etc.
The ideal software for this purpose should:
(a) Be able to read and input mailbox files in various common
formats.
(b) Store them and index them for fast retrieval.
(c) Not store each message in a separate files, there is too
much overhead in file storage.
(d) Allow me to handle more than one e-mail data base,
and to purge old mails of less intrerest from this data
base to save space.
Question 1: Does any such software exists?
Question 2: If not, can it be developed? What existing tools
should be used? Would Fourth Dimension be a suitable basic
tool for developing such software in?
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:48:15 -0800 (PST)
From: HARRIET LORD
Subject: system 7.5 basic question
I would like if there are 2 different system 7.5s - one for the Power Mac
and one for the 68xxx machines.
Our university has a site license for System 7.5, and we would like to
know if we can use one CD for all the upgrades in our department.
I would appreciate any advice you offer. Please e-mail a copy of you
response to me. Our newsreader has been extremely unreliable this past
week.
Thanks in advance.
Harriet Lord
Department of Mathematics
Cal Poly, Pomona
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:52:35 -0500
From: [email protected] (Sang Park)
Subject: Why I can't record speech in SoundEdit?
My Systems : 7100/80 with builit-in microphone + SoundEdit 2.0.3
Settings in Sound Control Pannel : "Sound In" => Built-in, "Option" =>
Microphone
Settings in SoundEdit : "Recording Options..."
"Recording Type" => 22kHz
"Mode" => Mono
"Connection" => Microphone
When I push record button in SoundEdit, I got a message
"An error occrred while attempting to record using the built-in sound input
hardware"
But, I have no problem to record Alert Sound in Sound Control Pannel
Help me
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:10:39 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Word Purchase
>>>Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:44:37 -0500
From: Charles brasile
Subject: Word Purchase
Hi All and Happy Valentines Day
Does anyone know where you still can purchase Word 5.1 for a good
price. 800-926-9400;
206-882-8080; fax # -> 206-936-7329. And try to get Word 5.1a, which is an
update.
HTH,
Toby Moore
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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 20 Feb 96 Volume 14 : Issue 46
Today's Topics:
[!] Changes in people at info-mac...
[*] TidBITS#315/19-Feb-96
(Q): PGM file format on the Mac?
(q) weird buttons & ports
[Q] Problem with Linelink 144e Modem
British pound sign and PopChar
Can't start-up from CD
Data Recovery Toolkit - A Horror Story!!
Entering characters by ASCII nos in PageMaker
Eudora Forward
Global Chat 1.1.6
Good Calendar Program?
Graphing Calculator for 68k?
Info-Mac Digest V14 #44 (2 msgs)
ISDN
Microsoft Word 6.0 Vs Claris Works 4.0
MS Word 5.1a weirdness...
No Sound on PowerMac 7100/66
OpenDoc for Java coming...
Open Transport error (2 msgs)
Panasonic Mac Clones
re> Boot from Zip/external drive? (R)
Recursive Files on PC Formatted Storeage Media
ScanMaker and 7500 [Q]
Some questions to be answered?
Storing e-mail in an IR data base
system 7.5 basic question
Why I can't record speech in SoundEdit?
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 03:52:13 -0600
From: Gordon Watts -- Brown University
Subject: [!] Changes in people at info-mac...
Hi,
Well, as of this digest (if I remember to do it!), Bill Lipa is off the
masthead.
This guy was on back in the days when Jon Pugh helped out (longlong long time ago). Bill is the fellow who got me into info-mac -- as an
archivist. A year or so later Igor came on board and took over archiving while
I moved up to making the digests. At that point, Bill stopped having any day
to day involvement in info-mac, but kept his hand firmly on the tiller. We
then added Liam who did most of the reorg of info-mac directory structure.
Liam now is in charge of the mirrors and other special projects (like the new
machine). That was the point that Bill sort of drifted away -- but we kept him
on the masthead. After Liam, we added Adam (who is in charge of the comm
directory structure).
More changes are underway, however. First off, we are getting ready to
complete our move to a new location (a sun server donated by AOL, along with 5
gig!! of disk space... yay!). Igor is retiring and we've brought someone new
on board with us: Demitri. He is taking over the archivist job from Igor.
Igor, like Bill, has done a great job: he is responsble for moving the
archive from my original system to a 24 hour turn around for submitted
binaries. A tough act to follow, but Demitri says he is up to it! Igor has
served with us for, oh, two years I think [I'm really bad with time/dates --
just ask my exgirlfriend]. And every damm day he has done the archiving (there
are rumors he even did it on his honeymoon). Igor didn't want to write
anything, so I thought I'd talk him up a bit.
If you want to thank those guys you can! Send them email! Bill Lipa is at
[email protected] and Igor is at [email protected]. They are a bit part
of the reason that info-mac is what it is today!
Cheers,
Gordon.
P.S. A little thing from Bill....
****
Hi Gordon,
Things are going really well... check out our web site at www.ten.net.
Check me out on the company picture (behind the sign on the right)!
I always meant to take myself off but it was one of those things I never
got around to doing. If you could do that, I would appreciate it. I
regret not being able to spend more time on Info-Mac but unfortunately
the startup just ate up my life! Plus I got married too which was quite
a time sink (well worth it though).
I hope everything is going well for you and Info-Mac. It was always a
pleasure working with you and everyone else and I have many fond memories.
Thanks,
Bill
PS. You can include this mail in the digest if you want to make an
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:48:07 -0800
From: [email protected] (TidBITS Editors)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#315/19-Feb-96
TidBITS#315/19-Feb-96
Apple's in the news, announcing a deal to license the Mac OS to
Motorola plus the first beta of Cyberdog, its set of OpenDoc-
based Internet tools. Also this week, we have news on Macromedia's
Shockwave plug-in and Sun's Java Development Kit for the Mac,
Garry Kasparov's chess match against Deep Blue, and a TidBITS
survey (the future of the Reviews column hangs in the balance!).
Finally, Matt Kall contributes an overview of the reality and the
implications of the Telecommunications Act of 1996.
Topics:
MailBITS/19-Feb-96
Reviews Survey
Man Wins... This Time
The Telecommunications Act: The Good, Bad, and Unknown
Reviews/19-Feb-96
[Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-315.etx; 30K]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:23:56 -0500
From: [email protected] (Ed)
Subject: (Q): PGM file format on the Mac?
a picture in a PGM ASCII-format? Graphic Convertor will save it in a
non-ASCII format, but has no option to do an ASCII-format.
Please send information directly to me, and I will summarize for
the list.
Thank You.
Edmund Chambers
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Masters Student in Electrical Engineering
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:38:56 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: (q) weird buttons & ports
Dear Mac-Infomeisters,
I am sure this sounds like a stupid question, but there is an extra button on
my monitor in back with an icon like a horsshoe magnet with a ghostbusters
sign around it. When I press it, the whole screen goes wibbily wobbly and I
don't know what it just did. It is an Apple Monitor. What I want to know is
what the thing does and if I should be presssing the button at all.
Another thing that is puzzling me is an extra port on the back of my
AppleDesign Powered Speakers. It looks like the megahorn icon used commonly
for sound with parentheses around it. It accepts normal earphone plugs like
that which is on the back of my mac. I called 1-800-sos-apple and they
really didn't help me at all. I am just wondering if anyone out there knows
what I am talking about. If so, please e-mail me. Thanks.
later,
kurt
-> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Eval:23Apr95
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:02:08 -0500 (EST)
From: "DR. L.G. LEDUC"
Subject: [Q] Problem with Linelink 144e Modem
I seem to have a problem with my Linelink 144e modem. However, I am not
sure if the problem is with my modem or the remote modem which I connect
to. Let me explain the problem.
I've been using the Linelink modem for several months to connect to a
university Vax computer without any problems. The university has two
banks of lines and modems: one bank is used by students whereas the
other is used by faculty/staff. I was using the faculty lines without
any problems. For the past few days, my Linelink cannot establish a
connection with the faculty modems. However, I can negotiate a good
connection with the student modems. I find it puzzling that the Linelink
would suddenly fail with some lines and not with others! It is even more
puzzling because of the fact that the Linelink dials the number
correctly and shows a CONNECT message BUT the carrier is lost within a
couple of seconds.
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please reply
directly to me: [email protected]
Leo G. Leduc
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:10:33 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: British pound sign and PopChar
>>>Date: 12 Feb 96 08:54:10 +0000
From: Doug Lobdell
Subject: British pound sign and PopChar
>>>Figured this discussion is a good lead-in to a question that has plagued
our office for a few weeks now. We recently upgraded to Sys 7.5, the latest
Microsoft suite, WordPerfect (may it live forever - are you listening,
Corel?), and ClarisDraw. We're all disappointed to find that a most useful
utility, PopChar, no longer works. Fully, that is - it seems limited to
Geneva and an occasional Monaco, no matter what font we're actually currently
using. PopChar would provide an instant answer to the 'pound sign' problem,
and is indispensable for anyone using any dingbats and any fonts that may not
have full character sets, non-standard characters, etc. Have we missed an
update to Gunther Blaschek's most excellent (FREE!) program, does anyone know
about system conflicts in 7.5 that blurp PopChar, or are there any other
clues out there??>Many thanx in advance, both from myself and the local office.>>Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:14:55 +0000
From: "Howard E. Deutch"
Subject: Data Recovery Toolkit - A Horror Story!!
On November 29, 1995 my hard drive crashed. I had seen advertisements
of a product called Data Recovery Toolkit manufactured by Total Recall,
Inc. which was described as disaster recovery software. I called Total
Recall, Inc. and described my problem. I asked if they thought Data
Recovery Toolkit could recover data from my crashed hard drive. They
said there was a high likelihood that it would.
[most of horror story deleted for reasons of length & extremity of horror
]On January 31st I returned the disk. In my letter I gave Kelly one last
chance to refund my money. On February 2nd he telephoned me and said he
had no intention of doing so.>
A feature I found useful in Word was the ability to enter characters by their
ASCII numbers. Type cmd-opt-Q, then type the number, and presto Word entered
the character corresponding to that ASCII number. Does anybody know if
something similar can be done in PageMaker 5.0?
Subject: Eudora Forward
Well, this isn't exactly the world's biggest problem, but it is
a stumper for me. Previously, my version of Eudora Pro would
mark a message that I forwarded with something like:
----- Forwarded Message ------
Now all I get is quotation marks in the forwarded message.
I liked the old header, but can't figure out how to set to the
other method.
Tips, hints are appreciated.
Jeffrey Fritz
[email protected]
West Virginia University
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:44:05 -0500
From: [email protected] (Trish Clark)
Subject: Global Chat 1.1.6
I just downloaded and configured Global Chat 1.1.6 and every time I try to
join a chat, Global works for a few moments and then freezes up. Does
anyone out there know why this might be happening?
Trish
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 20:40:30 JST
From: [email protected] (Keith S. Wilkinson)
Subject: Good Calendar Program?
Can anyone recommend a good calendar program that will print two-, three- or
four-week calendars extending from midway through one month to midway throug
h the next? Commercial program, shareware or freeware acceptable.
Keith WILKINSON, Home e-mail: CompuServe 100207,710
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:53:52 -0600
From: [email protected] (Kent Shook)
Subject: Graphing Calculator for 68k?
Hi,
I'm in need of some graphing calculator software, and I'm wondering if
anyone out there has any recommendations. I'm hoping for freeware or
shareware.
I tried the graphing calculator that comes on Power Macs, but alas, my poor
old Duo 210 won't run it.
Thanks,
Kent Shook
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:38:54 -0600
From: [email protected] (F. L. Beaver)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #44
Note that the recent US Constitution Newton Book has been archived as:
/info-mac/art/us-constitution-10-book.hqx
It should really be archived as:
/info-mac/nwt/book/us-constitution-10-book.hqx
since you cannot view it unless you have a Newton MessagePad or compatible.
F. L. Beaver
[email protected]
--
F. L. Beaver - Webmaster for Hot Links!
mailto:[email protected]
http://www.mailhost.net/~hotlinks
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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 00:38:04 -0700
From: [email protected] (Neil Fiertel)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V14 #44
I received word from the clever programmer of Max Ram that the program will
exclusively operate with Ram Doubler 1.6 . It does not work with 1.6.1 for
those that hoped that it did. I trust someone will make a similar hack
that will work with newer Ram Doublers. The originator of this nice little
program is now a busy student at UC, Berkeley which he naturally has made
his priority...glad to here someone treats University as a priority rather
than a place to gain free internet connects! Let's wish him good luck! He
did many people a favour with that program, though, alas, not I having had
1.6.1 upgraded before I heard of the hacked patch...
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:09:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email protected]
Subject: ISDN
What do people on the list think aboutthe Motorola TA210?? I am thinking
about purchasing it for the Performa 475. Can it work like a regular modem
and also work as it should, for ISDN? Thanks in advance!!
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:20:00 -1000
From: [email protected] (Ed Cesar)
Subject: Microsoft Word 6.0 Vs Claris Works 4.0
My guess is that the winner of the debate between the merits of Microsoft
Word 6.01 Vs Claris Works 4.0, if there was one, has been declared long
ago. I would be interested in a discussion of the major pros and cons of
each with regard to wordprocessing. I would appreciate someone referring
me to either the number of a prior posting on this net or a book that
discusses them fairly.
Thanks a lot.
Ed Cesar
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:44:33 -0400
From: [email protected] (Mustafa Ziyalan)
Subject: MS Word 5.1a weirdness...
Suddenly I am unable to print certain documents from within MS Word 5.1a.
I have a Performa 630 CD with 8 meg of RAM and a HP DeskWriter 540.
I can print from within other applications, I can print documents saved
before circa 2/13 but I can't print documents I newly create from within MS
Word 5.1a. Printing starts and an alert says "can't open printer; go to
chooser and chose another printer..." which seems to be a printer driver
alert and reportedly comes up in memory tight situations. Same thing
happened with all extensions except the printer driver disabled and after I
reinstalled the printer driver. Also, nothing particular happened by the
date 2/13.
Your suggestions will be appreciated!
Mustafa Ziyalan
[email protected]
http://maxwell.njit.edu/merhaba/dir/mziyalan/
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:40:05 -0800
From: [email protected] (Martin Forrester)
Subject: No Sound on PowerMac 7100/66
>I have a friend using a PowerMac 8100 running System 7.5.1 and an external
>NEC 4X CD drive. He is wondering if there is any way to record parts of
>songs from normal audio CDs by musical artists and turn them into sound
>bites in the .SND or .AIFF format. Has anyone heard of a utility that does
>this? Thanks!
>
>Michael James Miller, Information Director
>Catholic Health Association of Wisconsin, Madison
>[email protected]
You can use Apple's "Movie Player" (available from their Web & ftp sites)
to do this.
As I recall you do it in two steps...first open the track from the CD and
save the portion you want in a "movie" format. Then open >that
Subject: OpenDoc for Java coming...
...if we call for it!
OpenDoc would bring a whole new level of capabilities to Java programmers
and applet users, allowing applets to be integrated seamlessly, and
complex applications to be constructed of interchangable components.
I believe Java is OpenDoc's best potential platform: a highly productive
cross-platform environment with broad industry support and a rapidly
growing audience.
It would also help Sun and Netscape in their struggle against Microsoft's
so-called standards.
To voice your support for this idea, visit this new Web page about it:
http://summary.net/~breck/java-opendoc.html
(Webmasters are welcome to create links to this page. I suggest the link
name be "OpenDoc for Java".)
Liam Breck
Data Innovations, Amherst Mass. [email protected]
PS: please CC me in any responses
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 12:58:00 -0600
From: Pete Resnick
Subject: Open Transport error
On 2/18/96 at 10:20 PM, Stephen C. Camidge wrote:
>I installed the Open Transport 1.1 and found a big problem.
As far as I know, OT 1.1 is still in beta test. (Since I am beta testing, I
very much hope it is since I have heard no announcement to the contrary.)
Do you have a beta version? If so, have you reported the problem to Apple?
>If I revert to MacTCP after deleting the Open Transport files, I find that
>MacTCP becomes invisible and the type changes to ????, then it will not
>function. If I delete, and move in a backup copy and reboot, it too
>becomes invisible. The short term fix is to make it visible and reset the
>type. I can then reboot and get to the internet.
>
>Then when I reboot, it becomes invisible again.
Did you delete OT by using the "Remove" option in the Installer, or did you
just try to guess which things to remove and which not to?
In any event, if this is beta software, it is inappropriate to be posting
questions here about it. I think I know what your problem might be, but I
am certainly not at liberty to talk about it as I am under non-disclosure.
pr
--
Pete Resnick
QUALCOMM Incorporated
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:46:14 -0500
From: [email protected] (Stephen C. Camidge)
Subject: Open Transport error
Got it.
After receiving comments, I tried a few more settings. I had to switch my
TCP/IP Setting to "Using PPP Server". Then all was well. Open Transport
works.
My problem with MacTCP was likely due to my manually removing Open
Transport rather than using the installer.
Thank you very much for your help.
Steve
Stephen C. Camidge
[email protected]
RR #1, Desboro, Ontario N0H 1K0 Canada (519) 363-3912
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:41:08 -1000
From: Jerry Levinson
Subject: Panasonic Mac Clones
A friend in Japan just sent me a couple of flyers he picked up there
(probably in Akihabara). They are all in Japanese so here's the bits I
figured out:
Pioneer is coming out with a "multimedia personal computer" model MPC-GX1
that runs the Mac OS. Uses a 66MHz PPC 601 chip, comes with 8MB/500MB
memory, 2 stereo speakers and one super woofer, 4.4spd Pioneer CD-ROM
drive, 2MB VRAM, 256Kb level 2 cache, etc. No price listed.
I must have missed mention of Pioneer going into the Mac Clone business
in the U.S. press...
The other item is Ghost Writer for Windoze and Mac, cost 5,980 yen. It
appears to be a voice input system, but there is more kanji on the flyer
than I can deal with so I am guessing.
Can any of your Japanese readers provide more information?
Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:07:54 -0500
From: [email protected] (Mel E. Martinez)
Subject: re> Boot from Zip/external drive? (R)
At 8:09 AM 2/19/96, John Antolak wrote:
>In Info-mac #45, you said:
>
>By default, the mac will look to scsi ID 7 (the internal drive) for a
>startup volume. If that drive is not suitable, it then looks to ID 6, then
>ID 5 and so on, with scsi ID 0 having the lowest priority.
>--
>
>I hate to nitpick, but SCSI 0 is usually the internal drive, and SCSI 7 is
>reserved for the Mac CPU (at least on all of the Macs I've seen).
>
Yeah, technically, the correct way for me have to put it is that the SCSI
bus establishes control priority based on highest ID number, hence the mac
cpu as device #7 has default control of the bus. The search for a bootable
volume does then proceed from 6 down to 0 in that order, if no startup
drive is specified. So the solution to getting the mac to boot from an
external volume is still the same as I posted (hold the mouse button down
during startup, which causes the mac to 'forget' which volume is the
startup volume).
Note, btw, that if a mac does not have an internal drive, an external drive
can have ID 0.
A perfectly fair nitpick. I should have taken time to double-check my
scsci notes before ripping off the reply.
Cheers,
Dr. Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics
[email protected]
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 08:52:52 UT
From: "Perry Low"
Subject: Recursive Files on PC Formatted Storeage Media
I have PC files on Bernoulli disks that I want to burn to CD-ROM, using a CD
burner that is attached to a Power (MAC) PC.
When I put the source media (PC formatted Bernoullis) into the MAC, some of
the files appear with a "MAC Systems File" icon. When these files are opened,
they appear to contain a duplicate copy of the whole Bernoulli disk. Those
files then open to show the entire contents of the Bernoulli again -
infinately looping.
Deleting these infinately looping files causes the entire contents of the
Bernoulli to be errased!
What is causing the problem and how can I solve it?
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:00:10 -0600 (CST)
From: Kent G Shook
Subject: ScanMaker and 7500 [Q]
Hi,
I'm trying to get a Microtek ScanMaker IIsp to work with a Power Mac 7500.
The scanner comes with Color It! 3.0.3 and the ScanMaker PPC plug-in 3.0.2.
What happens is when I try to run Color It, and then use the plug-in, it
quits with a type 1 error. I've tried turning extensions off, and I even did
a clean reinstall of the system. Same thing happens every time. And
Microtek's people have the day off, it seems...
Is there anyone out there with a Microtek scanner and PCI Power Mac that can
get the Color It software and the plug-in to work? Please reply by e-mail,
and I'll summarize to the net.
Thanks,
Kent Shook
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:02:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim J
Subject: Some questions to be answered?
Hello!
I am thinking of buying some Apple products, and I would like people's
opinion.
1: Does anybody have a PowerBook 190cs/66 8/500 computer? I am thinking
of buying one, and I would like to see if I can get the lowest price
ever. So far, I've gotten as far as $1864, and I want to know if I can
get it lower somewhere. Any help?
2: If I find that the PowerBook 190cs/66 8/500 doesn't "cut" it for me,
what Power Macintosh would you all suggest for the cheapest price, and
for a person who has never owned a color monitor. Yes, I am still on a
B&W Macintosh Classic.... That's why I want the cheapest PM.
3: Is RAM Doubler (by Connectix) really flaky? I've seen it in use alot
in my present job, and it seems to work for them fine, but I've also heard
that it causes more problems then helps. Any suggestions on either to
buy it or not? I am planning to buy that too.
4: Recently, I've heard about a "RAM Doubler Pump" on Info-Mac... Is
this a commercial product, or a info-mac free type thing? I want to get
it for the people that use RAM Doubler at work.
5: For a person who thinks about buying these items, can somebody suggest
something else that might be useful? True, that it will take me a while
to get all of these things, but any suggestions?
*Thanks*
-Tim Judd
--
This is my signature... Do you like it?
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:56:09 +0100 (MET)
From: Jacob Palme
Subject: Storing e-mail in an IR data base
I would like to store my e-mail in an information retrieval
data base, from which I can rapidly search for old messages
based on boolean conditions of author, date, recipient,
words in the subject, words in the text etc.
The ideal software for this purpose should:
(a) Be able to read and input mailbox files in various common
formats.
(b) Store them and index them for fast retrieval.
(c) Not store each message in a separate files, there is too
much overhead in file storage.
(d) Allow me to handle more than one e-mail data base,
and to purge old mails of less intrerest from this data
base to save space.
Question 1: Does any such software exists?
Question 2: If not, can it be developed? What existing tools
should be used? Would Fourth Dimension be a suitable basic
tool for developing such software in?
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:48:15 -0800 (PST)
From: HARRIET LORD
Subject: system 7.5 basic question
I would like if there are 2 different system 7.5s - one for the Power Mac
and one for the 68xxx machines.
Our university has a site license for System 7.5, and we would like to
know if we can use one CD for all the upgrades in our department.
I would appreciate any advice you offer. Please e-mail a copy of you
response to me. Our newsreader has been extremely unreliable this past
week.
Thanks in advance.
Harriet Lord
Department of Mathematics
Cal Poly, Pomona
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:52:35 -0500
From: [email protected] (Sang Park)
Subject: Why I can't record speech in SoundEdit?
My Systems : 7100/80 with builit-in microphone + SoundEdit 2.0.3
Settings in Sound Control Pannel : "Sound In" => Built-in, "Option" =>
Microphone
Settings in SoundEdit : "Recording Options..."
"Recording Type" => 22kHz
"Mode" => Mono
"Connection" => Microphone
When I push record button in SoundEdit, I got a message
"An error occrred while attempting to record using the built-in sound input
hardware"
But, I have no problem to record Alert Sound in Sound Control Pannel
Help me
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:10:39 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Word Purchase
>>>Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:44:37 -0500
From: Charles brasile
Subject: Word Purchase
Hi All and Happy Valentines Day
Does anyone know where you still can purchase Word 5.1 for a good
price. 800-926-9400;
206-882-8080; fax # -> 206-936-7329. And try to get Word 5.1a, which is an
update.
HTH,
Toby Moore
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