Info-Mac Digest V18 #64
Posted: April 19th, 2001, 5:30 am
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Info-Mac Digest Thu, 19 Apr 01 Volume 18 : Issue 64
Today's Topics:
John Sample
[*] Extension Overload v5.8
[*] Pocket Album v1.1.6
[*] Prowler 2.1.2
[*] SweetMail 2.09r2
Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant?
Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant?
Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant? (A)
Apple DVD Player/PC Card Woes
macintosh512k
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:55:39 +0200
From: Christian F Buser
To: Info-Mac Digest
Subject: John Sample
>We have a couple of Macs on an ethernet hub which is connected to a
>highspeed ISP. We also have one PC connected to the same hub which my wife
>uses for internet access.
>
>Through the hub, the Macs can "see" each other and we can share files. Is
>there a way to do this between the Macs & the PC?
The PC has to "learn" to speak AppleTalk, if you want to share the
drives. I think I heard about "PC-MacLan" and "Dave", but I have no
"real-life experience".
You could always have Apple's WebSharing running on the Macs and
access them from the PC that way - but this may be of limited use for
you.
Good luck, Christian.
--
Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)
Look at
Die Natur gab uns zwei Ohren, aber nur eine Zunge (Zulu).
------------------------------
Date: 18 Apr 2001
From: Teng Chou Ming
To:
Subject: [*] Extension Overload v5.8
Extension Overload is an extensions,control panels, control strip
modules and contextual menus managementapplication. It offers detail
information of 4580 extensions andcontrol panels, control strip modules
and contextual menu items inyour system. It also lets you activate and
deactivate them, so thatyou can always easily tailor your system to your
current requirements.In addition, Extension Overload includes a useful
collection ofhelpful information and tidbits. New feature in 5.8
released April 16,2001* Many improvements to the user interface to make
itmuch more compliant with Appearance and Kaleidescope.* Contain detail
description of 4580extensions, control panels, CSM and CMM* Updated
'Ways to speed up yourMac'.* Added the Get Info and Deletebuttons. *
Better support for non English Mac OS. * More URLs and emails have been
updated.* Updated the user manual.--
[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/extention-overload-58.hqx; 1455 K]
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Date: 18 Apr 2001
From: Takashi Suzuki
To:
Subject: [*] Pocket Album v1.1.6
Pocket Album is an application for the Macintosh which allows you to view
picture files. Not just only browsing the files, this application works as
librarian and format converter.
One window, i.e. one file, can hold 24 picture files and some comments for
them.
Pocket Alubum accepts these picture format with QuickTime 4.0:
- BMP, FlashPix, JPEG, GIF, Macromedia Flash, MacPaint, PICT, PhotoShop, PNG,
- SGI Image, QuickTIme Image, TIFF, TARGA
Can convert to these picture format with QuickTime 4.0:
- BMP, JPEG, MacPaint, PhotoShop, PICT, PNG, QuickTime Image, TGA,
- SGI Image, TIFF
What's changed in v1.1.6:
- May crash when you close some window -> fixed.
Features :
- Fat Binary.
- Drag & Drop support.
- Navigation Services aware. (PowerPC only)
This application requires :
- Macintosh with 68020 or higher / PowerPC
- System7 + QuickTime 2.5 or later
-- T.Suzuki
[Archived as /info-mac/gst/grf/pocket-album-116.hqx; 269 K]
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Date: 18 Apr 2001
From: Andrew Cunningham
To:
Subject: [*] Prowler 2.1.2
Prowler is an image browsing and management tool with an intuitive and
stylish interface. It's features include a full screen browser,
advanced slideshow (cross fades and the unique "scribble" function) and
powerful image organizational tools (image rotation, copying,
renaming). Prowler's aim is to present a collection of images in an
attractive way, either for personal browsing, showing off to friends,
or presentations.
Prowler supports all file image formats supported by the currently
installed version of QuickTime. These include PICT, JPEG, GIF etc.
Prowler is only US$15 shareware.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
So what's so great about Prowler?
There are many features that sets Prowler neck and tail ahead of the
rest of the pack;
- Prowler's has a unique and elegant interface; perfect for
presentations. No more of those drab gray buttons, lists and popup menus.
- Powerful image manipulation tools make it a perfect assistant to
any aspiring digital photographer.
- Prowler features a slideshow including all common features as well
as several unique features such as alpha fades and scribbling.
- The ability to create HTML image catalogs.
- Prowler isn1t expensive.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
What's new in this version?
Crash when trying to open the thumbnail of an image without a resource
fork and automatic thumbnail creation off, as noted by Rob Frohne, fixed.
Added a "Sort" menu, that allows you to sort the file list by file
name, date modified, date created or by file size.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Minimum Requirements
PPC ( G3 highly recommended )
At least 16 MB of free RAM MINIMUM, more recommended
MacOS 8.5 or later
Quicktime 2.5 or later
[Archived as /info-mac/gst/grf/prowler-212.hqx; 1445 K]
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Date: 18 Apr 2001
From: [email protected]
To:
Subject: [*] SweetMail 2.09r2
SweetMail is an internet e-mail client for Macintosh that provides
most powerful features with sweet interface. SweetMail has
multiple POP3 accounts, very fast searching, thread-view,
filtering, templates, auto-wrap and many useful functions.
System Requirements:
* System 7.1 or later. (PPC/68K, including MacOSX)
* 4MB of Memory.
[Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/mail/sweet-mail-209r2.hqx; 2226 K]
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:52:16 -0400
From: Saint John
To: [email protected]
Subject: Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant?
At 03:42 -0400 4/17/01, carolynb wrote:
>I have a beige G3 PowerPC, that has the original 64 M RAM. I would
>finally like to upgrade the RAM, and can easily do so myself, but does
>it matter if each slot has a different size RAM chip? I thought that,
>years ago, each slot have to have the same amount of RAM, for example
>64-64-64 or 128-128-128. Is this true, or can I just add maybe 128 M
>and then have 64-128-0 across the 3 RAM slots?
Years ago, that was correct. However, since the PCI days, most (I'd say "all," but there is probably an exception) Macs can use any supported RAM module in any slot. For example, I have in "Iron Vicki," my trust PowerCenter, three 16 Mb modules and a 64 Mb. In "Titanium Vicki," my G4 Powerbook, I have a 64 Mb module in the bottom slot and a 256 Mb module in the top slot.
I would stake my reputation as a wrestler on the ability of your G3 to use DIMMs of different sizes. Merely make sure that the RAM speed is equal to, or lower than, the speed your computer requires. A reputable vendor like Small Dog Electronics can make sure that you get the right RAM.
My advice is to buy a single module that's just below the price/size break-- for example, if a 256 Mb unit costs less than double the price of a 128 Mb unit, and also less than half the price of a 512 Mb module, it's the best buy.
+- Saint John -+
+- Rabid Cultural Relativist and Wielder of the Wouff Hong! ---------+
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:46:25 -0400
From: Eph Fithian
To: carolynb
Subject: Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant?
>Hello,
>
>I have a beige G3 PowerPC, that has the original 64 M RAM. I would
>finally like to upgrade the RAM, and can easily do so myself, but does
>it matter if each slot has a different size RAM chip? I thought that,
>years ago, each slot have to have the same amount of RAM, for example
>64-64-64 or 128-128-128. Is this true, or can I just add maybe 128 M
>and then have 64-128-0 across the 3 RAM slots?
>
>TIA,
>Carolyn
>[email protected]
That will work. With RAM so cheap, 64MB goes for $9, put in as much
as you can fit in all three slots. I believe 256MB is going for
around $60. Check http://dealmac.com/ for the best prices.
--
Eph Fithian
http://www.fithians.com
G3 BW/400MHz/512MB/108GB server
G3 FW/500MHz/320MB/32GB airport utensil
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:50:51 +0200
From: Christian F Buser
To: Info-Mac Digest
Subject: Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant? (A)
>I have a beige G3 PowerPC, that has the original 64 M RAM. I would
>finally like to upgrade the RAM, and can easily do so myself, but does
>it matter if each slot has a different size RAM chip? I thought that,
>years ago, each slot have to have the same amount of RAM, for example
>64-64-64 or 128-128-128. Is this true, or can I just add maybe 128 M
>and then have 64-128-0 across the 3 RAM slots?
There were models where you needed to have the same size/type/speed
of RAM in 2 slots.
There were other models where the same size/type/speed of RAM in 2
slots speeded up the system by about 10 percent compared with a
"mixed" setup in the same machine.
The G3 beige does not belong to any of these two types of machines,
so you can mix your RAM chips at your desire. It takes 168pin DIMMs,
10ns. Total maximum is 768 MB (3 x 256 MB).
Best wishes, Christian.
--
Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)
Look at
Die Natur gab uns zwei Ohren, aber nur eine Zunge (Zulu).
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:16:12 -0400
From: Allan Hunter
To: [email protected]
Subject: Apple DVD Player/PC Card Woes
I have a WallStreet era PowerBook which came with the DVD-ROM drive
and the CardBus PC Card for playback of DVD video using the Apple DVD
Player software. I recall inserting the card and launching the
software once just for the heck of it but the video rental store I
frequented didn't have many DVD titles and I never ended up using it.
Until yesterday.
I'm on jury duty and there is a lot of empty down time and I figured
for the sake of variety instead of playing MP3s or reading books to
kill time, I'd watch a movie. Swapped out the MCE CR/RW drive for
the original CD/DVD and switched the extensions back to the set that
uses the regular Apple CD/DVD Driver and popped in the card. Three
minutes of frozen computer followed by the Finder quitting and
restarting. No PC Card icon appears on desktop. [I'm thinking,
"Odd, wasn't there a PC card icon?"] Attempting to launch Apple DVD
Player brings forth the error message "Apple DVD Player cannot open
because the required hardware cannot be found".
Restart computer. TFT screen lights up, but no boot until I remove
PC Card and reset the power management. Boot. Insert PC Card.
Freeze x 3 minutes. Finder crashes and restarts. Apple DVD Player
repeats its "required hw can't be found" mantra.
Switch startup disk to the partition containing MacOS 8.1 (with which
the computer shipped) and which has never had 3rd-party CDROM drivers
installed. Boot. Insert PC Card. Freeze, Finder crash. Asks me if
I want to initialize the volume "unknown" (icon of an IC chip where
one would normally see a disk icon). I decide against formatting the
PC Card. Apple DVD Player still can't find required hardware.
I use ixmicro's Road Rocket card every day to power my second
monitor. It is a Type III card (the kind that eats both slots). I
pull it out and verify that the pin connectors match up with the
lower slot. Insert Road Rocket card. Road Rocket card icon appears
on desktop. I also have a CapSure card for doing screen caps and
lo-tech video digitizing; I remove the Road Rocket and insert CapSure
card into lower slot. ZVCAPTURE CARD icon appears on desktop. Yep,
the card slot seems to work.
The Apple DVD Card has been kept in my Targus computer bag inside its
rigid plastic carrying case since I bought the computer. It has no
dangling or protruding parts to break or bend.
Insert DVD disk into CD/DVD drive. Whirrs, icon labeled DVD_VIDEO
appears on Desktop with distinctive DVD symbol superimposed.
I remove CapSure card and insert Apple DVD card. Freeze. Finder
quits and comes back.
I do a search on O'Grady's PowerBook site and find someone with a
virtually identical complaint (minus the Finder crashing and no
mention one way or the other re: presence/absence of PC Card icon for
the card showing up on desktop), and the culprit for that person's
problem was that the sound-in has to be set to Zoomed Video. I set
mine for Zoomed Video. Insert PC Card. Freeze. Finder eventually
crashes and restarts itself. Apple DVD Player doesn't do any better
at finding necessary hardware.
OK, I do have a processor upgrade. It's all on its own processor
daughtercard. Swap it out for the original 300 MHz G3 processor
daughtercard. Boot. Insert Apple DVD PC Card. Freeze. After 10
minutes, tired of waiting for Finder to crash, force-quit Finder,
which restarts. No PC Card icon. Launch DVD Player. Complaints of
lacking necessary hardware.
My next quest was to locate another Wall Street era PowerBook and
insert this card and see if it froze up the second WallStreet's
Finder and otherwise replicated the behaviors I've described here.
However, I must at this time report a scarcity of enthusiastic
responses in my workplace environment. "Hi, I've got this card that
crashed my PowerBook's Finder every time I tried to use it. May I
try it on yours?" "Umm, I'd rather not."
Anyone having any definitive or compelling explanations for the above?
FWIW: Apple DVD Player, version 1.2, Copyright Apple Computer Inc 1997-99
--
Allan Hunter
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:38:09 +0200
From: Christian F Buser
To: "S.Mahanay"
Subject: macintosh512k
>I found one of these old macs in some junk, it's a macintoash512k,
>to my surprise it fired
>right up, but is missing and operating system. When it boots up you
>get the floppy disc
>picture with a blinking question mark.
>...
>Does anyone know of anyway I can install a system into it if I found
>a key board, the
>floppy disc seem broken also.
According to "AppleSpec", any OS version Can it connect to my power tower pro 200?
No guarantee, but it should work if you find an "old-style" LocalTalk
connector with DB-9 on the end, not the MiniDIN of the newer Macs.
Good luck, Christian.
--
Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)
Look at
Die Natur gab uns zwei Ohren, aber nur eine Zunge (Zulu).
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Info-Mac Digest Thu, 19 Apr 01 Volume 18 : Issue 64
Today's Topics:
John Sample
[*] Extension Overload v5.8
[*] Pocket Album v1.1.6
[*] Prowler 2.1.2
[*] SweetMail 2.09r2
Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant?
Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant?
Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant? (A)
Apple DVD Player/PC Card Woes
macintosh512k
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.
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* To submit files larger than 2 MB, email a description to
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binhexed file to info-mac.org, using the userid "macgifts" and the
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:55:39 +0200
From: Christian F Buser
To: Info-Mac Digest
Subject: John Sample
>We have a couple of Macs on an ethernet hub which is connected to a
>highspeed ISP. We also have one PC connected to the same hub which my wife
>uses for internet access.
>
>Through the hub, the Macs can "see" each other and we can share files. Is
>there a way to do this between the Macs & the PC?
The PC has to "learn" to speak AppleTalk, if you want to share the
drives. I think I heard about "PC-MacLan" and "Dave", but I have no
"real-life experience".
You could always have Apple's WebSharing running on the Macs and
access them from the PC that way - but this may be of limited use for
you.
Good luck, Christian.
--
Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)
Look at
Die Natur gab uns zwei Ohren, aber nur eine Zunge (Zulu).
------------------------------
Date: 18 Apr 2001
From: Teng Chou Ming
To:
Subject: [*] Extension Overload v5.8
Extension Overload is an extensions,control panels, control strip
modules and contextual menus managementapplication. It offers detail
information of 4580 extensions andcontrol panels, control strip modules
and contextual menu items inyour system. It also lets you activate and
deactivate them, so thatyou can always easily tailor your system to your
current requirements.In addition, Extension Overload includes a useful
collection ofhelpful information and tidbits. New feature in 5.8
released April 16,2001* Many improvements to the user interface to make
itmuch more compliant with Appearance and Kaleidescope.* Contain detail
description of 4580extensions, control panels, CSM and CMM* Updated
'Ways to speed up yourMac'.* Added the Get Info and Deletebuttons. *
Better support for non English Mac OS. * More URLs and emails have been
updated.* Updated the user manual.--
[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/extention-overload-58.hqx; 1455 K]
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Date: 18 Apr 2001
From: Takashi Suzuki
To:
Subject: [*] Pocket Album v1.1.6
Pocket Album is an application for the Macintosh which allows you to view
picture files. Not just only browsing the files, this application works as
librarian and format converter.
One window, i.e. one file, can hold 24 picture files and some comments for
them.
Pocket Alubum accepts these picture format with QuickTime 4.0:
- BMP, FlashPix, JPEG, GIF, Macromedia Flash, MacPaint, PICT, PhotoShop, PNG,
- SGI Image, QuickTIme Image, TIFF, TARGA
Can convert to these picture format with QuickTime 4.0:
- BMP, JPEG, MacPaint, PhotoShop, PICT, PNG, QuickTime Image, TGA,
- SGI Image, TIFF
What's changed in v1.1.6:
- May crash when you close some window -> fixed.
Features :
- Fat Binary.
- Drag & Drop support.
- Navigation Services aware. (PowerPC only)
This application requires :
- Macintosh with 68020 or higher / PowerPC
- System7 + QuickTime 2.5 or later
-- T.Suzuki
[Archived as /info-mac/gst/grf/pocket-album-116.hqx; 269 K]
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Date: 18 Apr 2001
From: Andrew Cunningham
To:
Subject: [*] Prowler 2.1.2
Prowler is an image browsing and management tool with an intuitive and
stylish interface. It's features include a full screen browser,
advanced slideshow (cross fades and the unique "scribble" function) and
powerful image organizational tools (image rotation, copying,
renaming). Prowler's aim is to present a collection of images in an
attractive way, either for personal browsing, showing off to friends,
or presentations.
Prowler supports all file image formats supported by the currently
installed version of QuickTime. These include PICT, JPEG, GIF etc.
Prowler is only US$15 shareware.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
So what's so great about Prowler?
There are many features that sets Prowler neck and tail ahead of the
rest of the pack;
- Prowler's has a unique and elegant interface; perfect for
presentations. No more of those drab gray buttons, lists and popup menus.
- Powerful image manipulation tools make it a perfect assistant to
any aspiring digital photographer.
- Prowler features a slideshow including all common features as well
as several unique features such as alpha fades and scribbling.
- The ability to create HTML image catalogs.
- Prowler isn1t expensive.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
What's new in this version?
Crash when trying to open the thumbnail of an image without a resource
fork and automatic thumbnail creation off, as noted by Rob Frohne, fixed.
Added a "Sort" menu, that allows you to sort the file list by file
name, date modified, date created or by file size.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Minimum Requirements
PPC ( G3 highly recommended )
At least 16 MB of free RAM MINIMUM, more recommended
MacOS 8.5 or later
Quicktime 2.5 or later
[Archived as /info-mac/gst/grf/prowler-212.hqx; 1445 K]
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Date: 18 Apr 2001
From: [email protected]
To:
Subject: [*] SweetMail 2.09r2
SweetMail is an internet e-mail client for Macintosh that provides
most powerful features with sweet interface. SweetMail has
multiple POP3 accounts, very fast searching, thread-view,
filtering, templates, auto-wrap and many useful functions.
System Requirements:
* System 7.1 or later. (PPC/68K, including MacOSX)
* 4MB of Memory.
[Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/mail/sweet-mail-209r2.hqx; 2226 K]
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:52:16 -0400
From: Saint John
To: [email protected]
Subject: Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant?
At 03:42 -0400 4/17/01, carolynb wrote:
>I have a beige G3 PowerPC, that has the original 64 M RAM. I would
>finally like to upgrade the RAM, and can easily do so myself, but does
>it matter if each slot has a different size RAM chip? I thought that,
>years ago, each slot have to have the same amount of RAM, for example
>64-64-64 or 128-128-128. Is this true, or can I just add maybe 128 M
>and then have 64-128-0 across the 3 RAM slots?
Years ago, that was correct. However, since the PCI days, most (I'd say "all," but there is probably an exception) Macs can use any supported RAM module in any slot. For example, I have in "Iron Vicki," my trust PowerCenter, three 16 Mb modules and a 64 Mb. In "Titanium Vicki," my G4 Powerbook, I have a 64 Mb module in the bottom slot and a 256 Mb module in the top slot.
I would stake my reputation as a wrestler on the ability of your G3 to use DIMMs of different sizes. Merely make sure that the RAM speed is equal to, or lower than, the speed your computer requires. A reputable vendor like Small Dog Electronics can make sure that you get the right RAM.
My advice is to buy a single module that's just below the price/size break-- for example, if a 256 Mb unit costs less than double the price of a 128 Mb unit, and also less than half the price of a 512 Mb module, it's the best buy.
+- Saint John -+
+- Rabid Cultural Relativist and Wielder of the Wouff Hong! ---------+
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:46:25 -0400
From: Eph Fithian
To: carolynb
Subject: Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant?
>Hello,
>
>I have a beige G3 PowerPC, that has the original 64 M RAM. I would
>finally like to upgrade the RAM, and can easily do so myself, but does
>it matter if each slot has a different size RAM chip? I thought that,
>years ago, each slot have to have the same amount of RAM, for example
>64-64-64 or 128-128-128. Is this true, or can I just add maybe 128 M
>and then have 64-128-0 across the 3 RAM slots?
>
>TIA,
>Carolyn
>[email protected]
That will work. With RAM so cheap, 64MB goes for $9, put in as much
as you can fit in all three slots. I believe 256MB is going for
around $60. Check http://dealmac.com/ for the best prices.
--
Eph Fithian
http://www.fithians.com
G3 BW/400MHz/512MB/108GB server
G3 FW/500MHz/320MB/32GB airport utensil
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:50:51 +0200
From: Christian F Buser
To: Info-Mac Digest
Subject: Adding RAM, must each slot be consistant? (A)
>I have a beige G3 PowerPC, that has the original 64 M RAM. I would
>finally like to upgrade the RAM, and can easily do so myself, but does
>it matter if each slot has a different size RAM chip? I thought that,
>years ago, each slot have to have the same amount of RAM, for example
>64-64-64 or 128-128-128. Is this true, or can I just add maybe 128 M
>and then have 64-128-0 across the 3 RAM slots?
There were models where you needed to have the same size/type/speed
of RAM in 2 slots.
There were other models where the same size/type/speed of RAM in 2
slots speeded up the system by about 10 percent compared with a
"mixed" setup in the same machine.
The G3 beige does not belong to any of these two types of machines,
so you can mix your RAM chips at your desire. It takes 168pin DIMMs,
10ns. Total maximum is 768 MB (3 x 256 MB).
Best wishes, Christian.
--
Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)
Look at
Die Natur gab uns zwei Ohren, aber nur eine Zunge (Zulu).
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:16:12 -0400
From: Allan Hunter
To: [email protected]
Subject: Apple DVD Player/PC Card Woes
I have a WallStreet era PowerBook which came with the DVD-ROM drive
and the CardBus PC Card for playback of DVD video using the Apple DVD
Player software. I recall inserting the card and launching the
software once just for the heck of it but the video rental store I
frequented didn't have many DVD titles and I never ended up using it.
Until yesterday.
I'm on jury duty and there is a lot of empty down time and I figured
for the sake of variety instead of playing MP3s or reading books to
kill time, I'd watch a movie. Swapped out the MCE CR/RW drive for
the original CD/DVD and switched the extensions back to the set that
uses the regular Apple CD/DVD Driver and popped in the card. Three
minutes of frozen computer followed by the Finder quitting and
restarting. No PC Card icon appears on desktop. [I'm thinking,
"Odd, wasn't there a PC card icon?"] Attempting to launch Apple DVD
Player brings forth the error message "Apple DVD Player cannot open
because the required hardware cannot be found".
Restart computer. TFT screen lights up, but no boot until I remove
PC Card and reset the power management. Boot. Insert PC Card.
Freeze x 3 minutes. Finder crashes and restarts. Apple DVD Player
repeats its "required hw can't be found" mantra.
Switch startup disk to the partition containing MacOS 8.1 (with which
the computer shipped) and which has never had 3rd-party CDROM drivers
installed. Boot. Insert PC Card. Freeze, Finder crash. Asks me if
I want to initialize the volume "unknown" (icon of an IC chip where
one would normally see a disk icon). I decide against formatting the
PC Card. Apple DVD Player still can't find required hardware.
I use ixmicro's Road Rocket card every day to power my second
monitor. It is a Type III card (the kind that eats both slots). I
pull it out and verify that the pin connectors match up with the
lower slot. Insert Road Rocket card. Road Rocket card icon appears
on desktop. I also have a CapSure card for doing screen caps and
lo-tech video digitizing; I remove the Road Rocket and insert CapSure
card into lower slot. ZVCAPTURE CARD icon appears on desktop. Yep,
the card slot seems to work.
The Apple DVD Card has been kept in my Targus computer bag inside its
rigid plastic carrying case since I bought the computer. It has no
dangling or protruding parts to break or bend.
Insert DVD disk into CD/DVD drive. Whirrs, icon labeled DVD_VIDEO
appears on Desktop with distinctive DVD symbol superimposed.
I remove CapSure card and insert Apple DVD card. Freeze. Finder
quits and comes back.
I do a search on O'Grady's PowerBook site and find someone with a
virtually identical complaint (minus the Finder crashing and no
mention one way or the other re: presence/absence of PC Card icon for
the card showing up on desktop), and the culprit for that person's
problem was that the sound-in has to be set to Zoomed Video. I set
mine for Zoomed Video. Insert PC Card. Freeze. Finder eventually
crashes and restarts itself. Apple DVD Player doesn't do any better
at finding necessary hardware.
OK, I do have a processor upgrade. It's all on its own processor
daughtercard. Swap it out for the original 300 MHz G3 processor
daughtercard. Boot. Insert Apple DVD PC Card. Freeze. After 10
minutes, tired of waiting for Finder to crash, force-quit Finder,
which restarts. No PC Card icon. Launch DVD Player. Complaints of
lacking necessary hardware.
My next quest was to locate another Wall Street era PowerBook and
insert this card and see if it froze up the second WallStreet's
Finder and otherwise replicated the behaviors I've described here.
However, I must at this time report a scarcity of enthusiastic
responses in my workplace environment. "Hi, I've got this card that
crashed my PowerBook's Finder every time I tried to use it. May I
try it on yours?" "Umm, I'd rather not."
Anyone having any definitive or compelling explanations for the above?
FWIW: Apple DVD Player, version 1.2, Copyright Apple Computer Inc 1997-99
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Allan Hunter
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:38:09 +0200
From: Christian F Buser
To: "S.Mahanay"
Subject: macintosh512k
>I found one of these old macs in some junk, it's a macintoash512k,
>to my surprise it fired
>right up, but is missing and operating system. When it boots up you
>get the floppy disc
>picture with a blinking question mark.
>...
>Does anyone know of anyway I can install a system into it if I found
>a key board, the
>floppy disc seem broken also.
According to "AppleSpec", any OS version Can it connect to my power tower pro 200?
No guarantee, but it should work if you find an "old-style" LocalTalk
connector with DB-9 on the end, not the MiniDIN of the newer Macs.
Good luck, Christian.
--
Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)
Look at
Die Natur gab uns zwei Ohren, aber nur eine Zunge (Zulu).
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