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Info-Mac Digest Mon, 25 Mar 91 Volume 9 : Issue 72
Today's Topics:
[*] Mac/gnuucp 4.3 is available NOW (Shareware)
68040 Macs (TWO of them
Apple CD-ROM on a BBS
Asynchronous LaserWriter driver (SL Laser) from Apple
Auditory Demonstrations CD Stack
Blank Icons
Digest -> Message utility
FONT CHARACTER NEEDED
How to get TrueType Fonts in Sys 6.0.7
HyperCard Mac to GS
Question about Tex
Re : MacOberon
Reimplementing someone else's programs (was: Laws in V9 #70)
Serial LaserWriter Font Utility
Sound Files
Submission for comp-sys-mac-digest
System 7.0b4 and DeskWriter
The green Waterloo Script pods are everywhere!
Two quick ones.
Updating QUED/M problem resolved (2 msgs)
User Logs for Mac
virus abstracts?
Works 2a Patch
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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 91 22:27:19 -0500
From: [email protected] (Jim O'Dell)
Subject: [*] Mac/gnuucp 4.3 is available NOW (Shareware)
Mac/gnuucp from Fort Pond Research is a port of the GNU
version of the UUCP protocol to the Macintosh. In addition to the
UUCP transfer engine it also contains a HyperCard stack that is
used for both reading and sending mail to other users.
==========Mac/gnuucp 4.3 Features==========
Double Clickable documents that launch Mac/gnuucp
to automatically call the named host.
Each Mac/gnuucp has their own HyperCard stack for reading
and replying to mail.
Mac/gnuucp automatically forwards mail to a "Well
Connected Host"
Mac/gnuucp supports local mailing lists.
The mailreader has an indexing capability that presents
a summary of all messages in the current mail stack.
Mac/gnuucp has been verified to communicate with
Vax VMS gnuucp, SUN uucp, Quickmail, and ATT SVR3
uucp servers
Mail messages are sent with standard RFC822
mail headers and dates.
Mac/gnuucp works with all Hayes compatible
modems
==========================================
Registered users ($20) will be placed on the info-gnuucp
mailing list to be informed of updates, enhancements
as well as receiving communications regarding Mac/gnuucp
>From other users.
As with all GNU programs source code is available and has been
distributed along with the binary form. If for any reason you want
the sources and cannot obtain them Fort Pond Research will supply
them for for a $20 copying fee.
Fort Pond Research
15 Fort Pond Road
Acton, MA 01720
[email protected]
[Archived as /info-mac/comm/gnuucp-43.hqx; 303K
/info-mac/source/c/gnuucp-43.hqx; 507K]
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 20:20:04 EST
From: Murph Sewall
Subject: 68040 Macs (TWO of them
Boy was I pleased to see page 5 of this week's (3/18) InfoWorld!
"Apple Aim High with 040 Tower"
I'd heard about the Macintosh "tower" 68040 (designed primarily as a
network server) with a list price around $15,000 (a little to large and
just a tad to pricey for my den
. What I've been hoping for is theOTHER "...desktop workstation which reportedly is the same size as the
Macintosh IIci..." (with three NuBus slots) !!! Hurray!
List price about $10K which translates to roughly what the educational
price of the IIfx was until it was lowered last week.
"Certain other features, such as the amount of memory that will come with
the systems, has yet to be determined. Apple is still showing the 68040
systems to user focus groups, in hopes of fine-tuning its final product
sources said. However, the system will come with four memory bays capable
of accomodating 1-, 4-, and 16-megabit DRAMS giving the system the capacity
for as much as 64 megabytes of memory some sources said. Apple will also
be changing the specifications of the NuBus slots in these 040 machines
according to sources. NuBus boards designed to work in previous Macintoshes
will work in the 040 slots and will reportedly run at 20 MHz..."
The ASIC parallel integrated circuit chips presently in the IIfx are expected
in the new models. "Although the new workstation is close to the IIfx in
design and functionality, sources indicate that the 68040 machine will have
a smaller footprint."
Gosh, it sounds like those focus groups contain my kinda people
I think I can manage to live with something less than 64 MB of RAM (8 MB
sounds about right). I hope it has a cache capability; it'd be a shame to
have to inhibit that processor with wait states
I have found thathard disks are subject to the famous "iron law of demand" (the more you
have, the more you need"
The article also says that the '040 Macs will have "multiple" SCSI ports
(FIVE in the tower!). Somehow I wonder if that isn't just a little
extravagent (put the $$$ into HD and RAM!!).
Can't wait 'til August (after 13 May that is
/s Murph BITNET/Internet
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 23:26:48 -0500
From: [email protected] (Bruce Abernethy)
Subject: Apple CD-ROM on a BBS
The Grand Rapids Mac Users Group has an Apple CD-ROM player which we
wish to use as a peripheral device on our BBS. We are running an SE/30
and Second Sight 2.1 software. Has anybody done this? Any hints? We
cannot seem to get this configuration to work.
Bruce Abernethy
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 14:49:05 EST
From: Peter Galko
Subject: Asynchronous LaserWriter driver (SL Laser) from Apple
There have been a number of queries recently regarding Apple's serial
LaserWriter driver (alias SL Laser) in the Info-mac digest. I am a long
time user of this driver and have had several contacts with Apple over the
product so I think I can shed some light on some aspects of the driver.
First, in response to my pointing out some errors and omissions from the
manual describing the driver's script for connection protocols, I was told
that Apple had not written the driver themselves but had contracted the
job out to another firm (whose name I forget) and that was the reason for
the poor documentation. I believe that this driver grew out of the
arrangement that Apple and Northern Telecom once had for some cooperation;
this driver allowed the use of the Meridian SL-1 switch as a network for
connecting Macs to printers (you could get the serial driver from Northern
Telecom, and a user's manual from them as well). I was also told that
because this was not an in-house product, Apple had no plans to update it.
If they ever did want to update it they would do it in-house as a total
rewrite (and hence it would be a significant effort). All this in incongruous
with the claim in the APDA catalogue that Apple gives the product Class 1
support. Apple told me this was a mistake which they would correct in the
APDA catalogue. Howver three issues of the catalogue have been issued since
and it is still claimed that the driver is class 1 (class 3 would seem more
appropriate to me).
As to problems with driver's use, I have never encountered any. It is used
throughout this Department on all kinds of machines and has been for the last
two and a half years (we connect our Macs to Apple LaserWriter's over a
SYTEK LAN which gives us RS232 type connections between ports on a demand
basis; writing the connection script to handle the initial link setup and
subsequent tear down was a relatively easy operation once I figured out the
errors and ommissions in "Apple's" manual).
Prof. Peter Galko E-mail: [email protected]
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 16:55:17 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Auditory Demonstrations CD Stack
A hypercard stack to accompany the Acoustical Society of America's (ASA)
Auditory Demonstration Audio Compact Disk is now available. The ASA has
produced an absolutely wonderful CD that contains 39 very intriguing
psychoacoustic demonstrations. The Auditory Demonstrations stack contains
the text from the booklet and controls a CD-ROM drive to allow a reader to
play each demonstration.
The stack is available for anonymous FTP from apple.com. Look in
/pub/malcolm/AuditoryDemo.cpt.Hqx
You will need to run BinHex (4.0) and then you get a self extracting Compactor
archive.
Enjoy.
Malcolm Slaney
ATG Perception Group
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1991 21:28 GMT+1
From: FRICCI%[email protected]
Subject: Blank Icons
If you have problems with icons in your documents, try rebuilding the desktop.
If this doesn't work, there may be some problems with the Bundle resources or
bits. You can fix them with the Norton Uilities.
When you say that this happens mostly to inits, that may be because of some
init chooser you may have.
Most init choosers change the type of the init to something else (usually
'xNIT' from 'INIT'), so that upon startup, they won't be recognized as inits
and won't load. There is one exception, anyway: Init Picker. This one doesn't
change the init or cdev files, so that they'll keep their icons; instead, it
replaces the INIT 31 resource in the System file, the one that loads all the
init files in the System Folder. The new INIT 31 will choose which inits to
load, and which not to load.
Hope this helps,
Alberto Ricci.
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 20:40:53 CST
From: Your friendly neighbourhood Lab GTA
Subject: Digest -> Message utility
/* DigestToMsg.c
I've been bemoaning the fact that Info-Mac comes in one big file on
usenet ever since I started using usenet, and wishing I could have
them in seperate message like mail or msg does.
Just today, I suddenly realized what a silly goose I've been! It's
a simple matter to turn the digest into a nice mail file, since
the digest lists messages seperated by ------------------------------
so all I have to do is replace all the ------------------------------
with
^A^A^A^A
^A^A^A^A
which is what the mail file uses to seperate messages, then simply
use mail or msg to read it!
So, method of operation (in UNIX):
Extract this file into a file called digest2msg.c and delete the
mail header.
Extract the digest to News/Comp.sys.mac.digest (the default on
trn) and say "yes" to "Extract in mail format?".
% cc -o digest2msg digest2msg.c
% digest2msg temp
% msg temp
(or, if you don't have msg, mail -f temp)
Voila!
Send problems/bug reports/gifts to:
Ian Chai Internet: [email protected]
Bitnet: [email protected]
*/
#include
#define divider "------------------------------"
main()
{ char buf[80];
int dlen = strlen(divider);
while (gets(buf))
{ if (strncmp(buf,divider,dlen)==0)
{ putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar('\n');
putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar('\n');
}
else
printf("%s\n",buf);
}
}
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 12:33:31 EST
From: [email protected]
Subject: FONT CHARACTER NEEDED
Font question: How do you get a solid line to print
over the caps T and L (I *think* those were the letters
he wanted...). An associate of mine needs to be able
to do this in Word documents and in the middle of a
line of text. Is there a font that has this overprinting
character (like the accents grave, acute, umlat, etc.),
or will he have to get Fontographer and create one of
his own?
Any ideas?
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Date: 21 Mar 91 17:17:59 EST (Thu)
From: [email protected] (Joseph Giannuzzi)
Subject: How to get TrueType Fonts in Sys 6.0.7
With the release of the Personal LaserWriter and StyleWriter, Apple has
introduced TrueType Font technology. Users of System 6.0.7 can use TrueType
by downloading two or three files from the Apple ftp site (apple.com). The
files cannot be posted in the Sumex archives since they are part of Apple's
System software, but I believe you can freely access them via Apple ftp.
You need two files to get TrueType running on the screen, plus another file
for the printer drivers. These files are located in /pub/dts/sw.license:
truetype-fonts-1-0.hqx These are the currently released TrueType
fonts. It includes Courier, Symbol, Times
and Helvetica. It also includes a new
Font D/A Mover version 4.1 that allows you
to install the fonts in your System.
stylewriter-install.hqx Yes, you absolutely need this file! It is
the smallest available file that contains
the TrueType INIT, which is of course
essential to displaying TrueType fonts.
mac-printing-tools.hqx These are the new printer drivers that
allow the use of TrueType fonts.
If I remember correctly, the installer that comes with the printing tools
automatically installs the TrueType INIT in your System Folder. If not,
simply drag the TrueType INIT in your System Folder. You must use the new
Font D/A Mover to install the TrueType fonts. Finally reboot, and voila!!!
>From my brief experience with TrueType, I have found that it is at least
equal to ATM. BTW, both ATM and TrueType seem to coexist nicely. I have
noticed that both make large font sizes look great, but don't perform as
well with small sizes. For this reason I have choosen to leave 9, 10 & 12
point sizes installed in my System, and replace the 14, 18, 24 & larger
points with the TrueType font. This has worked for me nicely.
Joe Giannuzzi - Peppermint Park [email protected]
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 20:58:07 MST
From: [email protected] (Bernhard Wieser)
Subject: HyperCard Mac to GS
Does anyone know the procedure of converting Mac HyperCard stacks to
the GS? I wrote a stack with some XFCNs on the Mac I'd like to port
to a friends GS, but know absolutely nothing about the GS.
One of the XFCNs returns the user's chooser name.
Please e-mail me any info. Thanks.
Bernie Wieser
(finger [email protected] if you really want a .sig)
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 12:08:55 EST
From: [email protected]
Subject: Question about Tex
Hello,
Where can I order any one of the commercial Tex packages
for the Mac? I know there are at least two (Textures, and
MacTex) availables, but I don't know the companies that
make them.
Also, is there a clear choice as to which one is the best?
I am not a Tex user myself, so please don't get down into
much details. This is for my supervisor. Please reply
to me directly and I will summarize for the net.
Manuel A. Perez
Naval Research Lab
[email protected]
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 02:53:11 EST
From: Jdr%[email protected]
Subject: Re : MacOberon
Slawo Janotta asks :
>
Could anybody post it (MacOberon) to the archive ...
[stuff deleted]
>Would writing shareware based completely on a commercial idea and then
> >sending around ASKING for money for it (not requiring) be considered
> >illegal plagerism? Even if the shareware author is in a different country
>
> Knut, a lot depends on what you propose, but the short answer is Yes its
> illegal because its not the code alone (or the windowing, etc) that is
> protected, but the IDEAS which are protected. Ideas which are not protected
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, but I do know the above reponse is wrong.
Yes, this is info-mac, not info-law, so I'll keep my response concise.
There are two forms of intellectual property protection: copyrights and
patents.
Copyrights
1) protect the EXPRESSION of an idea
2) automatic -- any original or derivative work can be copyrighted
(in the US, you don't even need to register a copyright just put
a copyright notice on the work)
3) international conventions provide for reciprocity of
copyright protection
4) in the US, a copyright lasts your lifetime plus 50 years (or 75
years for corporate "authors")
Patents
1) protect the IDEA itself
2) you have to apply for it and prove your idea is worth a patent;
in the US, that means that it's new, useful and non-obvious.
3) the patent applies only in the country of issue
4) in the US, a patent lasts at most 17 years
Anything which is not copyrighted or patented is in the public domain.
Expired copyrights and patents also enter the public domain.
The look-and-feel of a program may be an IDEA or the EXPRESSION of an idea
or may not be protectable at all. This is still in the courts because
Congress hasn't dealt with it properly. As far as I know, no court has
ruled on look-and-feel across national boundaries.
If you copy my program to the last detail, it therefore MAY be a violation
of my copyright. (Example: Lotus 1-2-3 clones.) If you copy the
functionality of my program but neither the code nor the interface, it is
NOT a violation UNLESS I have patents covering the program. (Example: Apple
has a patent on its region computing algorithms. Any Mac clone has to
implement regions differently.)
Note that none of this has anything to do with whether or not you CHARGE for
your program. It's just as illegal to give away a oopy of a copyrighted
work as it is to sell it.
I have not commented on whether or not it's ethical to do this. That's for
you to decide.
--- Bruce
[email protected] @amherst.mass.usa.earth
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 14:52:00 EST
From: Peter Galko
Subject: Serial LaserWriter Font Utility
Does anyone out there know of a utility which will allow fonts to be downloaded
to an Apple LaserWriter II NTX's disk drive over a serial link (or could tell
me even the appropriate PostScript code to initialize the drive, and to copy
a downloaded font to the drive for permanent storage). Altsys's Download 1.3
will allow me to download fonts to my LaserWriter over a serial link with
the asynchronous LaserWriter driver, but it knows nothing about the possible
existence of drives connected to a LaserWriter. Thus I can download fonts
to a LW for use until the next restart, but not permanently.
I have tried Apple's LaserWriter Font Utility 6.1, but it complains that
Apple's asynchronous LaserWriter driver is "not a PostScript LaserWriter
driver"!? (a case of Apple not maintaining compatibility with their products?);
futhermore I suspect that the Font Utility will assume I have a Appletalk
connection to the LaserWriter which isn't the case here.
Pointers to appropriate documentation would be nice...
Prof. Peter Galko E-mail: [email protected]
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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 15:43:09 CST
From: THE GAR
Subject: Sound Files
I have a question regarding MAC sound files. Can someone tell
me what "format" SOUND MASTER can read? I have got several
sound files from MACSERVE at PUCC, and I can't seem to play them.
I have had no problem with the Graphics or Executables that I have
received, but for some reason can't get the sound to work. I got
the Sound Converter Utilities, but I don't know what format I need,
nor do I know what format the files are in!
Thanks for any assistance.
-- Gary Warner Samford University Computer Services
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Date: 21 Mar 91 20:17:42 GMT
From: Alex Chaffee
Subject: Submission for comp-sys-mac-digest
Path: reed!chaffee
>From: [email protected] (Alex Chaffee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Subject: Re: FONT -> NFNT
Message-ID:
Date: 21 Mar 91 20:17:37 GMT
References:
Subject: Two quick ones.
On Wed, 20 Mar 1991 16:20:28 EST you said:
>1) With an LC and A IISI what stuff, i.e. hardware and software do you
>need to *run* not just read, Apple IIe software. Does Apple file exchange
>just read ProDos--or can it run it. Does my friend need a new board?
The //e card is supposed to be available for the LC *any day now*
AFE can *only* read/write ProDOS files, it *cannot* execute any program.
The //e card *only* works with an LC
More than one credible source (someone who *should* know) answers the
objection that the //e card will NOT run IIgs software with "we're working
on that" (there is a IIgs card in beta, but Apple has beta tested hardware
before that they've elected not to market).
There is a program (100% software solution) name ][ in a Mac that will
run *some* //e software in nearly any Mac (at about //e speed on a IIsi).
No color, no graphics, no copy protected (no modem on a IIci).
I own four (count 'em) Apple II's, but after 7 months with a Mac it's
been a couple of months since I've even turned a //e on (I do still need
a //e connected to a daisy wheel printer from time to time to type an
Express Mail label (I haven't figured out how to get a laser printer to
imprint the 2nd through 4th copy of the Post Office form
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 10:06:18 CST
From: GA0095%[email protected] (Robert J. Brenstein)
Subject: Updating QUED/M problem resolved
As several people indicated to me, the PUP program works ONLY with the
original QUED/M file as distributed by Paragon. Since I am a legal owner,
I just had to pull out my original disk to do the upgrade. Too bad that
this procedure makes me loose my custom preferences. I do not consider
this to be a friendly way of making an upgrade. Paragon people, are you
listening? I would also prefer that PUP does let me select any QUED/M file
to upgrade, then check the modification date or whatever and if that copy
can't be upgraded for whatever reason, then display an informative
dialog telling me why this copy can't be upgraded. Wouldn't this be
more friendly??? PUP should also let me copy my preference setting from
any QUED/M file to the newly updated one.
Does anybody know whether Paragon people plan any major face uplift for
QUED? I like many of its features but it annoys me quite often by not
conforming to standards. The Open dialog, cmd-W for save, not cmd-A for
select all, and a few others are most annoying. If I had spare money I
would change to Preditor or something else.
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 10:06:18 CST
From: GA0095%[email protected] (Robert J. Brenstein)
Subject: Updating QUED/M problem resolved
As several people indicated to me, the PUP program works ONLY with the
original QUED/M file as distributed by Paragon. Since I am a legal owner,
I just had to pull out my original disk to do the upgrade. Too bad that
this procedure makes me loose my custom preferences. I do not consider
this to be a friendly way of making an upgrade. Paragon people, are you
listening? I would also prefer that PUP does let me select any QUED/M file
to upgrade, then check the modification date or whatever and if that copy
can't be upgraded for whatever reason, then display an informative
dialog telling me why this copy can't be upgraded. Wouldn't this be
more friendly??? PUP should also let me copy my preference setting from
any QUED/M file to the newly updated one.
Does anybody know whether Paragon people plan any major face uplift for
QUED? I like many of its features but it annoys me quite often by not
conforming to standards. The Open dialog, cmd-W for save, not cmd-A for
select all, and a few others are most annoying. If I had spare money I
would change to Preditor or something else.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 15:46:29 -0500 (EST)
From: "Thomas James Menner, Jr."
Subject: User Logs for Mac
I'm interested in keeping track of usage of our Macintoshes, in
particular knowing who uses the machine when. I can do this if I use
a dedicated network like AppleShare, but I wanted to see if there was
any less expensive solution (that didn't involve having to buy a
dedicated server). The solution doesn't have to be a network -- it
just needs to somehow record the who and when of machine usage. Any
pointers or suggestions would be most appreciated.
tom menner
[email protected]
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 17:34:19 -0900
From: "ROY D THORP"
Subject: virus abstracts?
Can anyone help me find out about virus' and virus control as it pertains
to the Mac. I need information on how they work, what specifically they
attack and common solutions to the problem.
I would like information in abstract or digest form. I would like to also
hear of some ftp sites that would contain the information that I need.
If you can help me, and I sincerely hope that you can, please send me a
message to the address below.
Thank you in advance.
Roy Thorp
[email protected] (bitnet)
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 09:40 MST
From:
Subject: Works 2a Patch
I received a patch from Microsoft Customer Service that is labeled as
2.0e. This patch supposedly fixes a problem the software has running
on the new Mac models (Classic, LC, and SI). I can't state whether or
not this patch fixes the problem because none of our new machines have
a problem running the software. Microsoft said there is nothing new
in the software and if is working fine don't fix it. Also, I receive
the same thing for Microsoft Word 4.0 but again I'm not seeing any
problems running the software on the new Macs.
Caren Williams
Computer Services
Northern AZ Univ.
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 11:06:19 EST
From: [email protected] (Danny McCampbell)
>Where is the sound to snd converter that used to be in the archives under
>/sound/program? I need it desperately. Could someone please direct me to
>it or another program which does the same thing. Thanks
>
>Danny ([email protected])
>
>
>
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