Info-Mac Digest V6 #104
Posted: December 12th, 1988, 12:17 am
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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V6 #104
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Info-Mac Digest Sat, 3 Dec 88 Volume 6 : Issue 104
Today's Topics:
62 meg Hard drive directory at SUMEX-2060.Stanford.Edu.
Please send articles and binaries to [email protected].
Send administrative mail to [email protected].
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 88 22:30 AST
From: Stan Armstrong
Subject: 62 meg Hard drive
Subject: Cover page default in LaserWriter driver
We have a group of Macs scattered around the floor connected to a
LaserWriter. Often it is a problem separating one user's document
>From another, unless the users remembered to click a "cover page"
button in the LW driver dialog. Unfortunately, this setting defaults
to "Cover Page: No" and is not remembered (it is hard wired in the
driver), so if a user forgets to click a different button, her
printout may be inadvertantly taken away with the next user's
printout. I want to fix this by changing the default button to "Cover
Page: Last Page" so it will take an overt act by the user to cause a
cover page NOT to be printed.
So I did. Here is a patch to the LaserWriter driver which will cause
the dialog to come up with the "Last Page" button set. It applies
equally well to LaserWriter driver versions 5.0, 5.1, and 5.2. It is
not in the same location of the file in each version and is probably
not in the same position of the resource; but hex search will find it
correctly.
Using your favorite file editor (I used Fedit Plus, but Mac Zap Tools,
Symantec Tools, MacSnoopy, etc. should work, as should ResEdit):
Change 377C 0010 0004 47EC
to 377C 0012 0004 47EC
^^
Fedit Plus will show this patch beginning at an odd byte address;
that's OK. In ResEdit, this will be found in PDEF 4 (remember to
delete the old byte, then type the new; ResEdit does not overwrite).
I suggest making your backup copy of the LW driver and then editing
your actual one (reverse of normal procedure). If you edit the copy
and then put the copy in place, you may have to reboot (I maybe had a
problem doing this once).
No guarantees. Your mileage may vary. Using 11 instead of 12 will set
the default button to "First Page", but I think that's pretty useless.
/JBL
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 14:54:43 GMT
From: Dr R M Damerell (RHBNC)
Subject: Ethernet
Our site has many machines from various makers hung off one E-net (via
repeaters). Sometimes the net itself crashes (fortunately, not often)
& we dont know how to trace the cause. Please does anybody know of a
reasonably cheap piece of diagnostic software? We have MAC SE's with
the Kinetics Etherports and I'd prefer to have diagnostic S-ware for
these because they are physically more portable than (say) SUNS.
Please could you kindly reply directly, I am not on this list.
thanks, Mark
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 15:14 CST
From:
Subject: GREAT DISK LABELS
With "EFFICIENCY" in mind, others may bennifit from a really keen
product I've recently discovered: "Erase-A-Label". Its an erasable
but PERMANENT disk label. The kit comes with pen, erasing fluid &
pads (for deleting ALL previous notation), a nifty eraser-pen (for
revising a single line, letter or word) and either 100 or 200 of the
super-duper labels. The labels are cleanly designed with two types to
choose from. The kit also includes a couple of sheets of fat dots for
those who require a color-coding system.
Seems really well thought-out and has certainly helped us eliminate
part of the the labeling headache. The manufacturer is:
Cates & Co., PO Box 2761a, Abilene, Texas, 79604, Ph. 800-541-4351
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 88 23:29:06 EST
From: Alan Stein
Subject: Hard Disks
I'm looking for a hard disk to connect to a Mac Plus. I presently have
an Apple HD connected to one Mac, a CMS to another and find that I need
another HD for the third Mac connected to a network. My basic philosophy
is that there doesn't seem to be too much difference between hard disks
and I should buy the cheapest I can find, but would like to know if there
are any to stay away from. I am considering the following drives, listed
with prices.
Apple Crate 20 Meg $549
CMS Mac Stack 20 $509
30 $589
Everex 20kD $499
Jasmine Direct Drive 20 $549
EMAC 20D $479
Relax 20 Meg $488
UniMac 30Meg (Seagate) $519
Photon 20 $499
Major Mac 30 Meg (Seagate) $549
Alan H. Stein Department of Mathematics
The University of Connecticut at Waterbury
Internet: stein%[email protected]
BITNET: STEIN@UCONNVM
UUCP: {rutgers psuvax1 ucbvax & in Europe mcvax} !UCONNVM.BITNET!STEIN
Compu$erve: 71545,1500 Genie: ah.stein
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 9:41:02 EST
From: tom coradeschi
Subject: Hard Disks
A co-worker is looking to buy a SCSI hard disk for his mac+, and, of course,
wants to know which one to buy! I'm looking for recommendations for 20Meg,
externals. Access time not a real concern (he doesn't know what it is).
Please email to me.
tom c
"What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"
ARPA: [email protected]
UUCP: ...!{uunet,rutgers}!ardec-ac4.arpa!tcora
------------------------------
Date: 22 November 88 16:23-PST
From: TEREBESS%[email protected]
Subject: Incompatibility of System 6.0.2 and Radius FPD?
Date: 22 November 1988, 16:16:13 PST
From: Paul Romaniuk (604) 721-7088 TEREBESS at UVVM
To: INFO-MAC at SUMEX.STANFORD.EDU
Subject: Incompatibility of System 6.0.2 and Radius FPD?
I was just updating all of the various computers in our department with
the new System 6.0.2 release, and everything was going just fine until I
tried to do the two computers in our front office. Any attempt to boot
>From the System Tools disk resulted in a System Bomb of ID=10. These
two computers are Mac IIs with internal 40 meg drives, and Radius Full
Page Displays. The bomb surprised me because I had successfully updated
two other Mac IIs with Apple monitors. Further investigation showed
that simply swapping the System file from 6.0 to 6.0.2 on the Mac II
hard drive immediately reproduced the problem. Throwing out the two
Radius FPD inits had no effect. Since everything but the monitors and
graphics boards are the same between the Mac II systems that could be
updated, and those that couldn't be, I've concluded that there is a
compatibility problem with the Radius FPD (at least the Mac II version)
and System 6.0.2. Has anyone had similar problems? Are Radius or Apple
aware of this problem?
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 88 11:52:25 EST
From: Giovanni Aliberti
Subject: Linotronic printer
Does anyone have a Linotronic printer ??
If so, could you share your experience with us.
A phone number of a local vendor would also help.
Please reply directly to [email protected]
thanks in advance !!
-vanni
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 88 10:53:27 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Mac-VAX e-mail
I am putting together a site with an electronic mail host (a VAX
running VMS). The users all have Macintoshes on their desks and can
connect to the VAX using NCSA Telnet and an Appletalk/Kinetics
box/Ethernet connection. I have heard mumblings about DEC and Apple
working together on a "Mac e-mail" product that presents a Mac-like
interface to the user while s/he reads e-mail on the VAX. If you know
anything about this, or something like it (doesn't have to be from
DEC...) please send me e-mail directly. I will summarize to the list
if there is enough interest.
Jon McCombie
BBN Systems and Technologies
Cambridge, MA
Internet: [email protected]
USEnet: {ihpn4, decwrl}!bbn!jmccombi
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 18:24 CST
From: Mark Roseman
Subject: MacApp object needed
I've got a program right now which is using the TEView object to
handle some text in one window. Unfortunately, the output to this
window (a program listing) can sometimes grow longer than the 32K
maximum length of a TextEdit record legislated by the ToolBox.
At present what I'm doing is just having the top part of the text
get chopped off as more output is added, but thats obviously not an
adequate solution. What I would like is to find a new object which
I could use to replace the TEView but would handle text chunks
larger than 32K in length.
I don't need all the features of TextEdit here... in fact, the user
is not even allowed to edit the text. The program is the only thing
that does the writing to the window. So we need more of an "output"
object than anything else.
However, the user should be able to print out the contents of the
view, save it in a file, and use cut and copy (but not paste) with
the view.
If anyone has written something along these lines, or knows where
an object of this sort can be found, it would be appreciated. If not,
I'll write it myself, as it doesn't seem terribly complicated. By
the way, I'm still using MacApp 1.1 on this project.
Please respond directly to me, as I'm not subscribed to the list.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
------------------------------
Date: 21 Nov 88 14:47:46 GMT
From: [email protected] (Chris Borton)
Subject: nVir Info
>..the **** nVIR virus shows up! This is getting REAL irritating! Of course,
>Virus Rx, Apple's handy-dandy virus checking program totally misses the nVIR
>virus (NOTE THIS EVERYONE!) We found the virus using Interferon v. 3.0, now
>v. 3.1. Unfortunately, we have no good way to kill the virus dead, other
>then a lot of finiking with ResEdit (not clean, but effective). Interferon
>simply deletes the file...clean, effective, but bad for lab PR when you start
>wiping out peoples applications. And, we weren't looking for the nVIR when
>we were spot checking, so now we have to start the whole quarentine process
>over from the beginning, with Interferon instead of KillScores.
You can save yourself a lot of time and trouble by vaccinating everything
with "Vaccination", the program written by Mike Scanlin and published in
MacTutor to reverse the effects of nVIR.
The "KillVirus" INIT by Matthias Urlichs provides full protection against
nVIR by stomping on it when discovered and installing the preventative nVIR
10 resource.
Both of these and all other up-to-date virus tools are available via ftp from
rascal.ics.utexas.edu in ftp/Mac/virus (or something close to that).
Claimer: I helped Mike write Vaccination and was 'in' on the frantic dissection.
-cbb
--
Chris Borton borton%uva@mcvax.{nl,bitnet,uucp}
Rotary Scholar, University of Amsterdam CS
Now Palestine is a virtual country. But what gets swapped out on page-fault?
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21-NOV-1988 17:19 +0100
From: "3077::PBAUMANN"
Subject: Pagemaker 3.0 in a 1 Meg SE?
Running PageMaker 3.0 on a 1 Meg SE is possible. I've been running
it on a 1 Meg Plus and it didn't get faster after upgrading to two Meg.
Peter Baumann, U0055@dgogwdg5
MPI fuer Stroemungsforschung, Goettingen, W-Germany
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 88 16:32 N
From: (Ernst '42' Mulder)
Subject: Word 3.1 Pagination Goes Crazy
On Word 3.01
Using Word 3.01 I encountered a lot of problems. Most of them were rather
easy (sort of) to undo, after I found out what caused them.
1: One day the repagination didn't work as it should. At some points in
the Document I inserted a page break. At some places before the start
of a new Chapter. When I used the Previeuwer the pages were broken at
the right places. That is where I inserted the pagebreak. However, when
I used the Table of Contents generator the page numbers were all WRONG!!
The problem, I found out, was Hidden Text. At the start of a new Chapter
the first characters are hidden (When you use .c. .c2. etc to tell the
Table of Contents generator what it wants to know), and when I inserted
the page break the pagebreak itself got invisible too. The Previeuwer
didn't have problems with this, but the Table of Contents generator
apparently has. I didn't try what would happen when printing the
document. So: MORAL: Don't make pagebreaks, sectionbreaks HIDDEN.
2: Then One Day, some time and some essays later, I encountered another
problem. I had a complex page, with a lot of formulae. When repaginating
something weird happened. Say the complex page was page 12. It would
repaginate from the first page to page 12. Then it would start again
at page 1, and repaginate till the end of the Document. The most funny
thing was when creating a Table of Contents. The Chapters from the
first page till page 12 would be TWICE in the Table of Contents!!! Again
I didn't try what would happen when printed. The problem stayed even
after Save As... and disappeared after repaginating with the Option
key pressed. I don't know why I tried that, and repaginating took a
lot of time, but it worked and the problem didn't came back. Any
clues???? MORAL: When desperate repaginate with the Option key pressed!
3: At out university some people run a Dutch System and some people an
English System. I usually type my essays and reports on English Systems.
And I use Word's formuler a lot. For instance \f(1,3) (\ means Command-
Option-Backslash) gives the appropriate fraction. When printing the
Document on a Dutch System some of the formulae were printed not in
their final form but stayed in the form typed in. It took me about
a day to find out what caused this. Word uses the 'itl ' resources to
get some info on the system you work with. In the Dutch number-system
the 'decimal-point-separator' is a ',', not a '.'. "So..." Word
apparently things, "So this user is a Dutch person. Let's make life
convenient for him! If he wants to have a formula with numbers he
would probably use the comma a lot, so let's separate the expressions
with a more convenient character!!" And indeed, all worked well when
I changed \f(1,3) into \f(1;3). To eliminate this problem for ever
I copied my System's international Resources into Word, and now
it works well on all Systems. (Isn't Word intelligent?)
4: I used to have some problems with the style-sheets in Word, but those
all dissappeared when switching from a 512K Mac to a 2Meg Mac.
Conclusion: Word isn't a Word Processor for people who want an easy Word
Processor that always does what the user wants. I would
recommend MacWrite or WriteNow to such people. I used to be
one of this kind of people. I changed. (Don't we all at times?)
Now I would say Word is a Word Processor for people who want
a lot of neat things. People who know how to work around the
inconveniences (bugs some call them) of this Word Processor
and don't give up after yet another serious drawback... (hmpf!)
Anyway, since I use Word to write my essays and reports it takes me only
two evenings to write something that takes others two weeks. That is when
Word cooperates. And I usually get positive comments on them too. I do hope
however that Word 4.0 is a lot better, and I hope our University will
purchase Word 4.0 as soon as it gets out.
Ernst.
>
------------------------------
End of Info-Mac Digest
******************************
From: [email protected] (Lance Nakata & Jon Pugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V6 #104
Message-ID:
Date: 4 Dec 88 00:25:05 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 557
Approved: [email protected]
Info-Mac Digest Sat, 3 Dec 88 Volume 6 : Issue 104
Today's Topics:
62 meg Hard drive directory at SUMEX-2060.Stanford.Edu.
Please send articles and binaries to [email protected].
Send administrative mail to [email protected].
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 88 22:30 AST
From: Stan Armstrong
Subject: 62 meg Hard drive
Subject: Cover page default in LaserWriter driver
We have a group of Macs scattered around the floor connected to a
LaserWriter. Often it is a problem separating one user's document
>From another, unless the users remembered to click a "cover page"
button in the LW driver dialog. Unfortunately, this setting defaults
to "Cover Page: No" and is not remembered (it is hard wired in the
driver), so if a user forgets to click a different button, her
printout may be inadvertantly taken away with the next user's
printout. I want to fix this by changing the default button to "Cover
Page: Last Page" so it will take an overt act by the user to cause a
cover page NOT to be printed.
So I did. Here is a patch to the LaserWriter driver which will cause
the dialog to come up with the "Last Page" button set. It applies
equally well to LaserWriter driver versions 5.0, 5.1, and 5.2. It is
not in the same location of the file in each version and is probably
not in the same position of the resource; but hex search will find it
correctly.
Using your favorite file editor (I used Fedit Plus, but Mac Zap Tools,
Symantec Tools, MacSnoopy, etc. should work, as should ResEdit):
Change 377C 0010 0004 47EC
to 377C 0012 0004 47EC
^^
Fedit Plus will show this patch beginning at an odd byte address;
that's OK. In ResEdit, this will be found in PDEF 4 (remember to
delete the old byte, then type the new; ResEdit does not overwrite).
I suggest making your backup copy of the LW driver and then editing
your actual one (reverse of normal procedure). If you edit the copy
and then put the copy in place, you may have to reboot (I maybe had a
problem doing this once).
No guarantees. Your mileage may vary. Using 11 instead of 12 will set
the default button to "First Page", but I think that's pretty useless.
/JBL
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 14:54:43 GMT
From: Dr R M Damerell (RHBNC)
Subject: Ethernet
Our site has many machines from various makers hung off one E-net (via
repeaters). Sometimes the net itself crashes (fortunately, not often)
& we dont know how to trace the cause. Please does anybody know of a
reasonably cheap piece of diagnostic software? We have MAC SE's with
the Kinetics Etherports and I'd prefer to have diagnostic S-ware for
these because they are physically more portable than (say) SUNS.
Please could you kindly reply directly, I am not on this list.
thanks, Mark
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 15:14 CST
From:
Subject: GREAT DISK LABELS
With "EFFICIENCY" in mind, others may bennifit from a really keen
product I've recently discovered: "Erase-A-Label". Its an erasable
but PERMANENT disk label. The kit comes with pen, erasing fluid &
pads (for deleting ALL previous notation), a nifty eraser-pen (for
revising a single line, letter or word) and either 100 or 200 of the
super-duper labels. The labels are cleanly designed with two types to
choose from. The kit also includes a couple of sheets of fat dots for
those who require a color-coding system.
Seems really well thought-out and has certainly helped us eliminate
part of the the labeling headache. The manufacturer is:
Cates & Co., PO Box 2761a, Abilene, Texas, 79604, Ph. 800-541-4351
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 88 23:29:06 EST
From: Alan Stein
Subject: Hard Disks
I'm looking for a hard disk to connect to a Mac Plus. I presently have
an Apple HD connected to one Mac, a CMS to another and find that I need
another HD for the third Mac connected to a network. My basic philosophy
is that there doesn't seem to be too much difference between hard disks
and I should buy the cheapest I can find, but would like to know if there
are any to stay away from. I am considering the following drives, listed
with prices.
Apple Crate 20 Meg $549
CMS Mac Stack 20 $509
30 $589
Everex 20kD $499
Jasmine Direct Drive 20 $549
EMAC 20D $479
Relax 20 Meg $488
UniMac 30Meg (Seagate) $519
Photon 20 $499
Major Mac 30 Meg (Seagate) $549
Alan H. Stein Department of Mathematics
The University of Connecticut at Waterbury
Internet: stein%[email protected]
BITNET: STEIN@UCONNVM
UUCP: {rutgers psuvax1 ucbvax & in Europe mcvax} !UCONNVM.BITNET!STEIN
Compu$erve: 71545,1500 Genie: ah.stein
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 9:41:02 EST
From: tom coradeschi
Subject: Hard Disks
A co-worker is looking to buy a SCSI hard disk for his mac+, and, of course,
wants to know which one to buy! I'm looking for recommendations for 20Meg,
externals. Access time not a real concern (he doesn't know what it is).
Please email to me.
tom c
"What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"
ARPA: [email protected]
UUCP: ...!{uunet,rutgers}!ardec-ac4.arpa!tcora
------------------------------
Date: 22 November 88 16:23-PST
From: TEREBESS%[email protected]
Subject: Incompatibility of System 6.0.2 and Radius FPD?
Date: 22 November 1988, 16:16:13 PST
From: Paul Romaniuk (604) 721-7088 TEREBESS at UVVM
To: INFO-MAC at SUMEX.STANFORD.EDU
Subject: Incompatibility of System 6.0.2 and Radius FPD?
I was just updating all of the various computers in our department with
the new System 6.0.2 release, and everything was going just fine until I
tried to do the two computers in our front office. Any attempt to boot
>From the System Tools disk resulted in a System Bomb of ID=10. These
two computers are Mac IIs with internal 40 meg drives, and Radius Full
Page Displays. The bomb surprised me because I had successfully updated
two other Mac IIs with Apple monitors. Further investigation showed
that simply swapping the System file from 6.0 to 6.0.2 on the Mac II
hard drive immediately reproduced the problem. Throwing out the two
Radius FPD inits had no effect. Since everything but the monitors and
graphics boards are the same between the Mac II systems that could be
updated, and those that couldn't be, I've concluded that there is a
compatibility problem with the Radius FPD (at least the Mac II version)
and System 6.0.2. Has anyone had similar problems? Are Radius or Apple
aware of this problem?
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 88 11:52:25 EST
From: Giovanni Aliberti
Subject: Linotronic printer
Does anyone have a Linotronic printer ??
If so, could you share your experience with us.
A phone number of a local vendor would also help.
Please reply directly to [email protected]
thanks in advance !!
-vanni
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 88 10:53:27 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Mac-VAX e-mail
I am putting together a site with an electronic mail host (a VAX
running VMS). The users all have Macintoshes on their desks and can
connect to the VAX using NCSA Telnet and an Appletalk/Kinetics
box/Ethernet connection. I have heard mumblings about DEC and Apple
working together on a "Mac e-mail" product that presents a Mac-like
interface to the user while s/he reads e-mail on the VAX. If you know
anything about this, or something like it (doesn't have to be from
DEC...) please send me e-mail directly. I will summarize to the list
if there is enough interest.
Jon McCombie
BBN Systems and Technologies
Cambridge, MA
Internet: [email protected]
USEnet: {ihpn4, decwrl}!bbn!jmccombi
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 18:24 CST
From: Mark Roseman
Subject: MacApp object needed
I've got a program right now which is using the TEView object to
handle some text in one window. Unfortunately, the output to this
window (a program listing) can sometimes grow longer than the 32K
maximum length of a TextEdit record legislated by the ToolBox.
At present what I'm doing is just having the top part of the text
get chopped off as more output is added, but thats obviously not an
adequate solution. What I would like is to find a new object which
I could use to replace the TEView but would handle text chunks
larger than 32K in length.
I don't need all the features of TextEdit here... in fact, the user
is not even allowed to edit the text. The program is the only thing
that does the writing to the window. So we need more of an "output"
object than anything else.
However, the user should be able to print out the contents of the
view, save it in a file, and use cut and copy (but not paste) with
the view.
If anyone has written something along these lines, or knows where
an object of this sort can be found, it would be appreciated. If not,
I'll write it myself, as it doesn't seem terribly complicated. By
the way, I'm still using MacApp 1.1 on this project.
Please respond directly to me, as I'm not subscribed to the list.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
------------------------------
Date: 21 Nov 88 14:47:46 GMT
From: [email protected] (Chris Borton)
Subject: nVir Info
>..the **** nVIR virus shows up! This is getting REAL irritating! Of course,
>Virus Rx, Apple's handy-dandy virus checking program totally misses the nVIR
>virus (NOTE THIS EVERYONE!) We found the virus using Interferon v. 3.0, now
>v. 3.1. Unfortunately, we have no good way to kill the virus dead, other
>then a lot of finiking with ResEdit (not clean, but effective). Interferon
>simply deletes the file...clean, effective, but bad for lab PR when you start
>wiping out peoples applications. And, we weren't looking for the nVIR when
>we were spot checking, so now we have to start the whole quarentine process
>over from the beginning, with Interferon instead of KillScores.
You can save yourself a lot of time and trouble by vaccinating everything
with "Vaccination", the program written by Mike Scanlin and published in
MacTutor to reverse the effects of nVIR.
The "KillVirus" INIT by Matthias Urlichs provides full protection against
nVIR by stomping on it when discovered and installing the preventative nVIR
10 resource.
Both of these and all other up-to-date virus tools are available via ftp from
rascal.ics.utexas.edu in ftp/Mac/virus (or something close to that).
Claimer: I helped Mike write Vaccination and was 'in' on the frantic dissection.
-cbb
--
Chris Borton borton%uva@mcvax.{nl,bitnet,uucp}
Rotary Scholar, University of Amsterdam CS
Now Palestine is a virtual country. But what gets swapped out on page-fault?
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21-NOV-1988 17:19 +0100
From: "3077::PBAUMANN"
Subject: Pagemaker 3.0 in a 1 Meg SE?
Running PageMaker 3.0 on a 1 Meg SE is possible. I've been running
it on a 1 Meg Plus and it didn't get faster after upgrading to two Meg.
Peter Baumann, U0055@dgogwdg5
MPI fuer Stroemungsforschung, Goettingen, W-Germany
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 88 16:32 N
From: (Ernst '42' Mulder)
Subject: Word 3.1 Pagination Goes Crazy
On Word 3.01
Using Word 3.01 I encountered a lot of problems. Most of them were rather
easy (sort of) to undo, after I found out what caused them.
1: One day the repagination didn't work as it should. At some points in
the Document I inserted a page break. At some places before the start
of a new Chapter. When I used the Previeuwer the pages were broken at
the right places. That is where I inserted the pagebreak. However, when
I used the Table of Contents generator the page numbers were all WRONG!!
The problem, I found out, was Hidden Text. At the start of a new Chapter
the first characters are hidden (When you use .c. .c2. etc to tell the
Table of Contents generator what it wants to know), and when I inserted
the page break the pagebreak itself got invisible too. The Previeuwer
didn't have problems with this, but the Table of Contents generator
apparently has. I didn't try what would happen when printing the
document. So: MORAL: Don't make pagebreaks, sectionbreaks HIDDEN.
2: Then One Day, some time and some essays later, I encountered another
problem. I had a complex page, with a lot of formulae. When repaginating
something weird happened. Say the complex page was page 12. It would
repaginate from the first page to page 12. Then it would start again
at page 1, and repaginate till the end of the Document. The most funny
thing was when creating a Table of Contents. The Chapters from the
first page till page 12 would be TWICE in the Table of Contents!!! Again
I didn't try what would happen when printed. The problem stayed even
after Save As... and disappeared after repaginating with the Option
key pressed. I don't know why I tried that, and repaginating took a
lot of time, but it worked and the problem didn't came back. Any
clues???? MORAL: When desperate repaginate with the Option key pressed!
3: At out university some people run a Dutch System and some people an
English System. I usually type my essays and reports on English Systems.
And I use Word's formuler a lot. For instance \f(1,3) (\ means Command-
Option-Backslash) gives the appropriate fraction. When printing the
Document on a Dutch System some of the formulae were printed not in
their final form but stayed in the form typed in. It took me about
a day to find out what caused this. Word uses the 'itl ' resources to
get some info on the system you work with. In the Dutch number-system
the 'decimal-point-separator' is a ',', not a '.'. "So..." Word
apparently things, "So this user is a Dutch person. Let's make life
convenient for him! If he wants to have a formula with numbers he
would probably use the comma a lot, so let's separate the expressions
with a more convenient character!!" And indeed, all worked well when
I changed \f(1,3) into \f(1;3). To eliminate this problem for ever
I copied my System's international Resources into Word, and now
it works well on all Systems. (Isn't Word intelligent?)
4: I used to have some problems with the style-sheets in Word, but those
all dissappeared when switching from a 512K Mac to a 2Meg Mac.
Conclusion: Word isn't a Word Processor for people who want an easy Word
Processor that always does what the user wants. I would
recommend MacWrite or WriteNow to such people. I used to be
one of this kind of people. I changed. (Don't we all at times?)
Now I would say Word is a Word Processor for people who want
a lot of neat things. People who know how to work around the
inconveniences (bugs some call them) of this Word Processor
and don't give up after yet another serious drawback... (hmpf!)
Anyway, since I use Word to write my essays and reports it takes me only
two evenings to write something that takes others two weeks. That is when
Word cooperates. And I usually get positive comments on them too. I do hope
however that Word 4.0 is a lot better, and I hope our University will
purchase Word 4.0 as soon as it gets out.
Ernst.
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